Merchant Archive

Thread: Oh put a cork in it!

Super_nice_jedi
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:28 pm
#1

All this talk of the Merchant Nerf is starting to get tiring, people keep going over and over the same things all the time, and no solid word from the devs of whats happening. I feel the time now spent here and posting about it is now a waste of time, and its now time for the devs to speak. Mind you this is only a personal view, feel free to carry on yourselves if you think it will help. I don't I look at all what has been said, and my head is now swimming. For some strange reason something tells me that humans being able to breathe has been an explot all along, now God is going to come along in the next few weeks and remove that ability from us!! We're screwed!!



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You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.

My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
Cafa
Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:32 pm
#2

U = poorly executed Troll



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Sevardos
Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:18 pm
#3

D ... D+ for Troll post.


But it's not the worst I've seen.





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Super_nice_jedi
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:33 pm
#4

Well I thought it was funny



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You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.

My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
MilannaSati
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:43 pm
#5

The part about breathing was funny.




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Zanholo
Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:50 pm
#6

does up our post counts more and give a us breathe from flaming this latest round of poorly-though-through development decision...



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maloso
Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:00 pm
#7






Super_nice_jedi wrote:

All this talk of the Merchant Nerf is starting to get tiring, people keep going over and over the same things all the time, and no solid word from the devs of whats happening. I feel the time now spent here and posting about it is now a waste of time, and its now time for the devs to speak. Mind you this is only a personal view, feel free to carry on yourselves if you think it will help. I don't I look at all what has been said, and my head is now swimming. For some strange reason something tells me that humans being able to breathe has been an explot all along, now God is going to come along in the next few weeks and remove that ability from us!! We're screwed!!






obviously it doesn't effect you so take your no life having ass and leave your mothers house and get a job.



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Tmac-c
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:06 am
#8

I havent posted here before but with all the talk of revamp i am compeled to do so. I agree with waiting to see what the limits will be. I just bought a second account two months ago for the sole purpose of making him merchant. I will wait and see what comes about before deciding on keeping him or making him a doc . hopefully we will hear soon so we can construct a plan of action for our characters. with all the rants raves and sound suggestions out here they know how we feel. time to let us know what we are in for.



how can you have any pudding, if you dont eat your meat?
Super_nice_jedi
Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:00 am
#9






maloso wrote:





Super_nice_jedi wrote:

All this talk of the Merchant Nerf is starting to get tiring, people keep going over and over the same things all the time, and no solid word from the devs of whats happening. I feel the time now spent here and posting about it is now a waste of time, and its now time for the devs to speak. Mind you this is only a personal view, feel free to carry on yourselves if you think it will help. I don't I look at all what has been said, and my head is now swimming. For some strange reason something tells me that humans being able to breathe has been an explot all along, now God is going to come along in the next few weeks and remove that ability from us!! We're screwed!!






obviously it doesn't effect you so take your no life having ass and leave your mothers house and get a job.






Actually it does affect me, I did intend on creating 5 chars with Master Merchant, then dropping it all, and only have 2 with bus 3, with one being Master Artisan, to create the biggest shop in the Galaxy. It would have been rather cool indeed, and have been spending months bringing by chars up the Merchant tree, which has now become a total waste of time, as they will now not be able be able to have the vendors except the two, of the planned five, so shop will not be that big at all, and with the puny limits, will not be cool at all, even with a small shop. I'm a little miffed that I can't keep the vendors for all the chars, and all time spent doing merchant for no reason now, but I can't exactly oppose it, as its not meant to be, and I agree with it. Don't agree with the vendor limits though.


Anyway, what I meant by this thread was that everybody seems to post exactly the same thing, and topics get pushed into page 2 within about 5 mins. This is just totally ridiculous, and there are loads of threads with 0 replies, probably not that they're pointless, but because the right person didn't come along to post anything back, to keep the topic going, and who knows, someone may have posted something that could end up solving this whole nightmare, but its got lost against the floods of topics and threads, and never been read by anybody else other than the poster.




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You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.

My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
Ascedes
Thu Aug 12, 2004 11:40 am
#10

[quote]Actually it does affect me, I did intend on creating 5 chars with Master Merchant, then dropping it all, and only have 2 with bus 3, with one being Master Artisan, to create the biggest shop in the Galaxy.[/quote]


YOU are exactly the kind of idiot that created a need for this nerf. So don't even cry to us, or tell us to stop crying. Your words carry enough to wait to sink yourself to the bottom of the lake, but thats about it as far as I see it.
Super_nice_jedi
Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:11 pm
#11






Ascedes wrote:

[quote]Actually it does affect me, I did intend on creating 5 chars with Master Merchant, then dropping it all, and only have 2 with bus 3, with one being Master Artisan, to create the biggest shop in the Galaxy.[/quote]


YOU are exactly the kind of idiot that created a need for this nerf. So don't even cry to us, or tell us to stop crying. Your words carry enough to wait to sink yourself to the bottom of the lake, but thats about it as far as I see it.







I resent being called an idiot when the devs knowingly kept the Merchant profession in tatters, and open for abuse for a year. Also when I was doing Merchant for the fisrt time, and asking people for advice, and said I couldn't do a profession due to not have many skill points, I was told dropping Merchant still left me in control of the vendors,andI never considered it to be an exploit, as I did Merchantback in aboutOct last year, months after so many people have been doing it, just thought it was part of the gameplay.Also my main char kept Master Merchant anyway from his initial trip to Master Merchant, and still has it, as found the 20% structure bonus a real life saver. Then with an additional character I started doing the hologrinding after receiving the holocrons at xmas, and was mainatining my chars quite well, keeping my shop ticking over, legitimately I might add, and slowly progressing through the professions, was having great fun, then the devs announced that the jedi system was going to get a revamp, so I then mainly concentrated on my chars for hologrinding, and swiftly my shop and vendors got neglected, and lost tonnes of stuff I had on them, and vendors became empty and also on the planetary map, I never removed them from map as always intended on refilling them up, but by the time hologrinding and spending even more time on that than planned, it never happened.As publish 9 approachedand hologrinding technically became pointless, I decided to remove all vendors and to start from scratch, and to make start on this plan. So technically so far I have done nothing wrong, I was about to.


So don't blame people for abusing the vendors, blame the devs for not putting it right, and its notthe people who abused the vendors that madea need for the nerf, the nerf should have happened over a year ago, and would have happened too, if the devs did their jobs right, and no one would be that upset right now.



Also in another thread DocSavag said:







DocSavag wrote:





Super_nice_jedi wrote:





Thunderheartwrote:
From one of Thunderhearts 19 answers posts:

It was never intended for players to be able to keep and manage vendors after surrendering the Management skill boxes used to acquire them. This is scheduled to be fixed in a future publish and we want to upgrade vendors also, but it’s a bit early to start talking about that.





A bit too early, a bit too late you mean, that was posted in Aprl, problem should have been fixed from the start. Now after everyone has made it part of the gameplay, everyone now gets screwed bya few weeks notice. Or did you really mean it was too early, as it was too early as not enough people would have been put out by this change?







No..I'm sorry but we've been telling everyone who would listen in this forum for 9 months that this was going to be fixed someday. If people chose to do it then fine they got 9 months of free vendors but its not an excuse to keep letting them do it.






Which proves that there is not a problem with what I was going to do, just if I did it, I'dbe doing it at my own risk.The nerf was coming, your so called "idiots" have nothing to do with it.




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You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.

My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
MaDuece
Thu Aug 12, 2004 4:19 pm
#12






Super_nice_jedi wrote:



So don't blame people for abusing the vendors, blame the devs for not putting it right, and its notthe people who abused the vendors that madea need for the nerf, the nerf should have happened over a year ago, and would have happened too, if the devs did their jobs right, and no one would be that upset right now.





Just because its exploitable doesn't mean that it should be. You have a choice between what you know is right and wrong.


This is like a car thief blaming the car owner for leaving his car door open.


Super_nice_jedi
Thu Aug 12, 2004 5:56 pm
#13

The point is until last week I didn't know it was wrong, everyone I knew was doing it in game, it was part of the game. Only those who have visited the forums a lot and discussed the merchant trade in full would have known.


No its not like a car thief blaming the car owner for leaving his car door open, 1) I wasn't aware it was wrong, and 2) When a car owner realises that he has left his car door open, he goes to shut it, he does not leave it knowingly open.


I've spoken to loads of people in game about my proposed merchant idea, over last couple of months, and not one single person flamed me for abusing the system until now. Ironic really, hypocrytical probably. I bet even you took merchant and dropped it, and now have reacquired it yourself, and accusing people who have abused the system for this nerf, as you yourself now can't use the vendors without getting back merchant.





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You're out of time, SOE The whole 2.5 months shouldn't have been. The game was fine up until Nov 15th. If the CU was worked on, instead of devoting time to the NGE (including the many months prior to November), the game could possibly be totally bug free by now.

My account cancels on 2nd Feb, which was a waste as only played game for 1 day to get the life day gifts, will be resubbing when creature handler, Bio-engineer, scout, and ranger return, oh and the FS village.
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