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Thread: Rude and Tumbling Idiots

Marzuk147
Fri Dec 31, 2004 11:41 am
#14

"We're not all buffbots. I'm a healer, always have been. I spend a good portion of my game time in my hospital healing people as they come in and chatting with friends."

Is your time equally as valueable compared to a combat profession or a buffing doctor? Meaning if they make 200k an hour, how much do you make? Also before you say its not about the money, you are right it isnt, its about how people value what you do, which they dont.
Sanguin75
Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:02 am
#15

Heh! Started out doc again, after a 10 month break, and I find the grind easy with all the tumblers around. Back in the old days, we healed people. A rancorhunt..... aaahh... all the exp! Mastered medic in a couple of hunts, and dox 444x in no time, healing the poor tanks. This was before the buffs, when it was hard to play this game.


But, nontheless, I like the healing part. Always look for wounded people in the medcenter, and if Im out grinding rifleman and find a poor fella who's incapped or blackbarred, I heal him too. Gives me loads of exp, both medic and survival (Setting up camps to heal the poor bastards) .


We are medics and docs, so we should heal.




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gibsonSG
Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:30 am
#16

You couldn't pay me to buff morethan 5 people in a row, it would drive me crazy. I've been a doc for over a year and I'm a healer too. I can make ok money buffing but it's too painful becuse my time is far more valuable than sitting in front of a bunch of people clicking 6 buttons.


I'mglad to hearthere's more healers out there who get a buzz from healing disease/poisons/fire/wounds.


If I want to make money I'll go to the Geolab or DWB for loot or stick a couple of harvesters down when there's some great spawns so I value my time spent healing . I'm starting to lose the thread here so I'll continue...


I don't disagree with tumbling, I've tumbled to help friends grind medic but usually done it in a house so no-one hijacks me from my friend. That way I can go afk and stop annoying people who come in for a heal and see me afk ignoring them ,such as what happens in most med centres nowadays.


I'm not having a go at afk tumblers/healers, maybe they'll put their med skills to good use once they hit master doc/medic, but please spare a thought for the poor sucker with 150 stamina wounds who needs to use "tendwound" for 30 minutes.


When I grinded, I made all my meds and woundpacks as I needed them. Once I hit 4442 I only needed a bit more BEC grinding to hit master.


Some docs I know would buff the tumblers secondary action stats as soon as they see they're afk, so that's another reason to stay out of the med centre if you're afk'ing



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Tralmek
Thu Jan 13, 2005 10:22 am
#17

/begin plagerism




vortexala wrote:

No, he's a healer. There's a difference.



Back in the day, people who took medic, doctor and combat medic did it to heal people. Myself and several others, at the start of the game, used to man the hospitals all the time to heal people. It was a way to help people and have fun at the same time.


Nowadays, people who take medic, doctor or combat medic do so to add something to their combat template or to sell buffs. Is that bad? No. Is it wrong? No. It's simply a different way of playing the game.


Just because someone is a healer and plays the profs as a healer doesn't make them a 'nub', it makes their playstyle different.


Now calling someone a 'nub' because their playstyle is different...yeah, that pretty much fits the word correctly.




Ok, so it's not plagerism sinceI credited vortex...but I ditto that entire post. Some people aren't in the game solely for an AFK grind, some enjoy healing. Iearned my way through Medic and Doctor between the med center and going out on hunts. It's a lot of fun and a hella lotta xp.





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Exterminater
Thu Jan 13, 2005 4:14 pm
#18

I mostly pet trick in a med center if im afk to help get ppl medic exp. I have a plz tip macro that also says that they should heal other ppl's wounds. then if i check the computer and some guy i sstanding spamming heal my wounds plz.I just stop pet tricking an letting them wast their stims on me while afk



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djpringle
Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:41 pm
#19

To be honest I haven't seen real players being ignored in favour of the tumblers that often, most times there has been at least one med/doc healing wounds (apart from myself that is)


I guess you'll always have the grinders but I find that doing the healing bit, wounds 'n' all, is by far the more sociable and fun bit of the game for me at the moment.



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FeistySheister
Thu Jan 20, 2005 3:05 am
#20






Marzuk147 wrote:
I healed tumblers exclusively to master doctor the second time around. Its no different than a crafter doing the crafting in practice mode because their product isnt worth any money. As healing wounds has never made much in the way of credits and is slow, there was no point in doing it.

You may say well, credits are not important ect, but I tell you what, lack of credits is just a sign of a larger issue - lack of appriciation.






I fully agree. When I was a medic the afk tumbler phenomenon wasnt around yet. And the people that would walk in and demand (yes DEMAND) healing blew me away. As a noob grinding i did it for the xp, and 9 times out of ten, I either didnt get tipped or got tipped 200-500 credits. I remember picking up marksman and getting killed by nunas and womp rats so i could harvest crappy resources for even crappier packs.(My biggest tip as a medicwas 10k from a jacka$$ that told me to 'buy better medicine')Which I then used to heal my wounds outside of the cloning center for no xp.


Before I mastered medic I started asking to trade resources of any quality for heals, and people were much better about that than credits. When the tumblers showed up in the middle of my doc training, I didnt even stay in the med center, I was in my house with a friend running my own heal macro. Let thewhining over no medics/docs in the med center begin!


Now that Im a master doc, I can honestly say im for the tumbler healers. If someone wants a heal they should send a /tell and make it worthYOUR while. It makes more sense to pay a tumbler 5k and get 20,000+ xp in an hour than it does to spend 6k on a woundpack B to use on some bossy black-barred wannabe pilot that thinks all you aspire to do in the game is heal him for no compensation. Their failure to pilot/pvp/pvecompetently is not your emergency!!!!!


I'm typically buffing people or going out with hunting groups now (bad-a$$ nuna-slayer that I am) so I'm rarely in the med center. But if I go in with my TKM tag on and someone heals me just a little, they get tipped fat because I've been there. Medics should be appreciated for the service they provide, no other professions grind has the potential to help everyone as much, and people should respect that. Even If for no other reason than todays medic is tomorrow's 2500+ stat buffer, heh. K, thats my rant, and its only because I have much love for medics.




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MyT_Chicken
Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:29 pm
#21

Most tumblers aren't there for people because all they care about is Credits from being able to buff.


Any Medic or Doctor that left only to reskill again and use a Tumbler has no respect forthe professions andis no better then the people Mastering Doctor just to buff.


I took a 5 month break to re-establish myself on a new server, and just startedto level Doctor again. I never liked the Tumblers a year ago, and I still hate them today. I mastered Medic in roughly 12 hours running from city to city healing random people and Crafting while I waited for them to get patched up. A guy (joe)that picked up Novice Medic the same time I did was still crafting 11 hours after I made Master Medic.(joe) also spent a pretty penny on resources and stim b's to waste on tumblers.


Me by they time I hit MM I already had almost 2 blocks of Crafting done in Doctor, and made a profit of about 50k-100k just selling junk Stim B's on the bazaar. Medics, even low level ones can pull a profit, if they learn how the economy works. (joe) ended up buying most of my stims without even realizing it. If you price your stims correctly they sell like hotcakes. The only good thing about people who only heal tumblers is they make me rich buying my stims and other craftables that they "Practice" on.


It takes a special person to be a good Medic, Doctor, or CM. People take it for granted now, but hopefully after the CU people will realize that healing is a skill.....not a macro.






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HanSoloWannabe
Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:07 pm
#22

Tumblers do bug me now adays. They are convienent sure but when i have to wait for wound healing for 30 mins it gets annoying. Now adays i just head to a buffing doc cause for some reason they always have wound packs rdy for free.



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Kyodor
Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:25 am
#23

It's not just one way. I've seen too often, a newbie: often a Novice Medic, spend a long time healing someone's 500 wounds with Woundpack A's, and then the person just runs off - No "Thank you" or anything.

Im sorry, and I hate tumblers, but I won't heal someone's wounds if my work isn't going to be appreciated.

You don't go to a Doctor in RL and say "Gimme a operation! NOW!" then run off, don't pay him, don't say thank you.



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MyT_Chicken
Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:42 am
#24






Kyodor wrote:
It's not just one way. I've seen too often, a newbie: often a Novice Medic, spend a long time healing someone's 500 wounds with Woundpack A's, and then the person just runs off - No "Thank you" or anything.

Im sorry, and I hate tumblers, but I won't heal someone's wounds if my work isn't going to be appreciated.

You don't go to a Doctor in RL and say "Gimme a operation! NOW!" then run off, don't pay him, don't say thank you.






What you have to understand is that *most* people will let you heal them regardless how long it takes. Others will just run off after you get some/most of it healed. I had people run away from me a lot, but you really can't let it bother you.


Tipping is a constant problem with Healers in this game, it's been that way since the start. And nothing much has changed. On my server, I got tipped about 1:5. And the good thing is even 500 credits is better then nothing; heck the satasfaction of them sending a tell saying "Oh wow thanks" is good for me.I would have some people tip me 10k-15k for healing very *very* minimal wounds. So even if you don't get the "appreciation" your looking for. Most people are thankfull even if they don't say anything.


On the other hand, most people don't even notice Random heals. A year ago people would goto the Medcenter to get healed, now the starports are a common place to find Medics/NDocs that are trying to get XP legitimately. Most people don't even know you heal them unless you stick them exactly when they come out of loading and they see the System Message.


Long post short. You really can't take it personally. People will use Tumplers and Rez kits to cheat the system and in my opinion hurt the profession. It's hard to get back in the publics good graces after so many people looking for heals have been ignored by so many Macro trainers, Tumble monkeys, and Rez jukies. Take it in stride, move to the next person, and you will earn much more respect for your server community.





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st90
Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:14 pm
#25

Once the CURB is implimented, tumbling for heals should end. Damage would be to the Special action bars which cannot be healed. Thus no need for tumblers.

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Bisola
Sun Feb 13, 2005 12:37 am
#26



CanyonVR wrote:
My question would be....What level were these medics???
Maybe they didn't have the the medpacks made up??
But maybe they were just rude punks looking out for themselves and no one else.
I've been away for a WHILE (just got back because of JTL but it turns out I miss the ground game MUCH more than I realized!!!). At the moment I just need someone to teach me Master Medic.
I was shocked to see these "Tumbling Idiots" "AFK" in the Med Centers. At first I honestly had NO Idea what they were doing there. After I realized, I did use them a bit...BUT never when a "Real" Player was waiting.
That's simply rude and out of gaming context.
It reminds me of way back when I started there would be these higher level medic and doctor snobs that would never "complete" the heals. "A waste of their high level meds" they would tell me when I would complain. Simply rude.
When I run out of med packs, I let everyone know why I'm not healing them (usually I'm right there making them!!)...or I try to get the attention of another healer.
I don't look down on those that use the Tumblers...In fact I see them as a good use of slow times. But I do believe the "Real" patients come first.
EDIT: Oops...I thought I was answering a post in "A small Complaint". Sorry about the redundancy.

Message Edited by CanyonVR on 11-19-2004 05:06 PM





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