Medic Archive

Thread: Medics need to do their job

Kramer562
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:03 am
#1

Dritz,


Perhaps you should take on novice medic skills before you spout off about something you obviously no little about.


Kramer

Zoxxxter
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:12 am
#2

I have Medic....its kinda hard to use it ourselfs as a secondary skill. It is almost pointless to use in battle. We use mind to heal heath. Well look now.....instead of 1 shot to health that will kill me its just mind.


So why dont you learn about the HACK/SLASH class before you spout off your mouth?




Zoxx: Previously Novice Commando
Now Novice Combat Medic.
I will be glad to heal all you Commando's
who die by the hand of a blue mob.
Cruseydr
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:43 am
#3






NakedGirlsAreCool wrote:

Do all medics care about is money? What about the costs WE go through.. buying new guns/armor hell stimpacks cause i cant get a **edit** medic out there to heal me anywayz? Point is we shouldnt have to pay medics to do their job. They are gettin EXP just like we are.


Dritz


Novice Rifleman







medics don't have weapons and armor? when you have to spend thousands of credits worth of anything for every 2 hour hunting trip. then you can compare.



what it comes down to: when people are capped out on medical xp, why in the hell would they come throw away resources on people?




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Kramer562
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:47 am
#4

Zox,


"Exp solo is the best. I am just getting burned out on this tiresome circle....go hunt for 20 mins....die.....go to catina..."


I know many solo players that do not die as often as you, are you sure you aren't doing something wrong?


Kramer

Zoxxxter
Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:53 am
#5

Man you medics are all lost. Throw away resources. Man SOE you made a HUGE mistake.


Medics I am sorry but they are the BACKBONE to any solid group. OMG and I am SOOOO sorry for waisting you med packs on us. Look we are just trying to advance in the game.


I am aslo a hardcore player. When the game first came out I was on it nonstop. Now that I am higher up the skill branch, the mobs have become harder, the missions harder, and now Im not getting the exp to get stronger to start to overcome the harder mobs. If I was in a group NP. But once again no point in group becuase meds dont want to waiste their VALUBLE supplies on us. And the group exp is FOOKED up in a major way.


I am stuck, frustrated, and I feel like im in beta 4


Sorry meds but my gun is just pointing at you right now :\




Zoxx: Previously Novice Commando
Now Novice Combat Medic.
I will be glad to heal all you Commando's
who die by the hand of a blue mob.
Lokee
Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:02 am
#6

1)


back off us Medics, try hunting with smarts over hack/slash


2)


medics can't heal and run, you freeks are always Kiteing, ( running around leading the mob), and we can't stay in range to heal your butt


3)


We are mainlly in med centers till we side to take on combat medic, that is where we can heal at range


4)


you don't like dieing, and all that, choose a new class, it's YOUR freeking job to go , get hit, and posiblly have to drag yourself in to us.


again we can't heal well in the field, stimpaks take room and a HUGE amount of resources to create, if you want to PAY us ( I'm talking somewhere in the thousands of credits), to go with you and TRY to keep you alive, then fine, BUT if we are going for doctor, then the med center is our home.




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S_Mart_Ash
Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:14 am
#7

I'm sorry you feel the way you do about medics, i play a medic, and i go and fight with brawlers, and marksmen, and the rest of the proffesions out in the feild. We usually set up camp after an hour or two, i heal everyones wounds and go back to fighting. I have saved the group COUNTLESS times, it's not that people who play medics are pussies, majority of people who picked to be medics haven't played enough of the game to realize that if you're in a group of 6+, and you have autosplit on (if need be, based on what you're killing), and the party members are cool with throwing some supplies your way every now and again. Guess what, a medic can gain exp 3 times fster healing in combat then out of it, you can get BUNCHes of exps and fun out of the whole experience. I also have a little bit of skill in pistol, but i very rarely use it since i'm always healing the melee guys who are taking all the agro! To make a long post a little shorter. Talk to your medics, most of them are honestly scared of combat and the ones that arent don't always want to go hunting. I love to do it as long as i'm being challanged and not working with the challanged. his is still a new game and alot of people still haven't really utilized much in the line of how this game depends on which classes where. Once i have the exp i'm going to advancee up both doctor and Combat medic trees (if i can), becasue i like being able to hold peoples lives in my hands!



Mormigan
I'M SUPERMAN!!!
/yawn
Kylania
Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:20 am
#8

/rant on


If all a Medic does, as the ignorant strongarms here have been asking, is heal, than here's what they get for hunting with you and keeping you alive: HUGE MONETARY LOSS and some XP.


You combat types get tons of weapon XP. You get tons of Combat XP. You get (or lose) tons of Faction. You get tons of loot. You spend some of your money occasionally to buy new armor or weapons.


Us healing types get no weapon XP. We get no Combat XP. We get (or lose) no Faction. We get NO loot. We spend ALL of our money CONSTANTLY buying up resources just to make kits of to keep you alive _or_ we spend COUNTLESS hours Surveying and gathering up thousands of resources 7-11 at a time just to make kits of to keep you alive. We get a good amount of Medical XP (only PART of what we need).


Had we stayed in the Med Center we'd have gotten the same about of XP, we'd have used less resources and we'd be getting tips (money and resources) as well as have time to work on our crafting without some bonehead bloodthirsty melee baboon rushing off to pull while we're trying to heal their battered body.


Combat Medics HAVE to shoot to get to Combat Medic. If they are shooting, they aren't healing. I can get off maybe 5 heals in the time it takes me to shoot/heal/shoot. I don't WANT to shoot, but I have to because weare competing for the scraps of XP left over from the stupid grouping system of SWG that assumes that anyone playing a support character *could* possibly be exploiting because they are in the group, but not doing damage, so therefore should get NO rewards for being in the group at all UNLESS they are shooting things, since shooting things is all there is to do in a group, right?


Medics spent more time and money devoted to keeping combat personal alive and they repay us with threads like this. Sad. Maybe if you'd come to the Med Center the FIRST time you died, you wouldn't be showing up later with Max 1 health wondering why you can't get a break.


And about the kiting thing.. you run, you die. It's really that simple. I've completely given up chasing people who run. If you don't run to me, I'll just chuckle and watch you die, I probably won't even run over to getthem back up, just sothey have some time to think about how futile it was to run in the first place.


/rant off


muran
Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:27 am
#9

Definately think you must be doing something wrong then.

I go out hunting solo and do destroy missions and I don't get killed all the time.

I've never needed to use meds to heal myself to stop from dying.

Maybe you're just fighting stuff too high for your skill.

You shouldn't be blaming this on the medics, it's not their fault you keep dying.



Alarain Sherill - Tyrena, Corellia - Eclipse
Beneran
Fri Jul 04, 2003 2:40 am
#10

You obviously have NO CLUE NakedGirlsAreCool about what dedication to your profession is. I will gladly accompany you and your group and keep you alive to the best of my abilites, but it is going to cost you about 3000 credits an hour at least for my services. Depending on what type of medical supplies you want to be used. And I know all about combat, I am 99% positive that I know more about combat than you. It's called beta testing this game for many many months. So whatever you are doing, I have been there and done that. Although with your attitude towards medics, I would have to add a overinflated,self-serving, greedy, hack and slasher surcharge of about 5000 credits an hour.


Medics are not your personal healing when you demand it slaves.


According to your rational, combat classes should not get any money either, since you are awarded XP for killing with your weapon of choice. Your xp should be payment enough. Yeah like that would float.


Why should it be any different for us?



Oh. If you are getting owned constantly, you should change your tactics and what you are attacking. A smart combat class knows his strengths and weaknessess. And picks his fights carefully.





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Lokee
Fri Jul 04, 2003 3:04 am
#11

YEY, people do like us medics after all


look, I do go randomlly out with a group, small things, but they pay me in hides, bone, and meats, and some money


they also know I'll be shooting and only healing when the battle is done, or when I feel I can



we medics DO draw argo by healing too, it's awful to heal and have to run for your life


( I get no XP healing myself)



in the med center I get great XP, and the tips are wonderful, ( most the time), inbetween healing waves I can go and survey for resorces and build my med crafting, hang in the hotel and heal dancers


my main gripe is the delivery missions, these are just not medic ( non combat ), poor person friendlly



anyways, as one of my patrons said...



" Move along, Move along "





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Kiwon Brighteyes
Black Epsilon Pilot (3/3/3/3)
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** finger hovers over the cargo release button**
" Ever want to know what happens to the body, in the vacuume of space? "
Mubacca
Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:53 am
#12

"Medics need to do their job "


Who decided a combat player knows what a medics job is? It is not to facilitate the gathering of experience and resourcesfor the combat players. It is to play and enjoy the game just as every other player out there. This is a give and take enviroment we live in on the wilds of SWG immersive universe.


If any player thinks they got the right to dictate how another player plays you are only deluding yourself. If you want medics and doctors to play and grow along with all other players then you better be willing to make some concessions. Nothing is free in this game - nothing. That goes for experience points, heals, resources and what not.


If we are gonna all live and play together, you better realize that some players have to give up something to help another player or players. No one person in this game is rich from the start, and not all players have loads of support from other players - so the only recourse those medics and doctors have is to forage on their own.


What does it cost a combat player to play the game money wise and resource wise?


What does it cost a medic / doctor to play the game money wise and resource wise?


In short, those figures are not equal. If any combat player thinks it is try to make an alternate medic on a different server and see for yourself. Remember, you owe me nothing as a player and the reverse also holds true.


I also am a hard charger - I am retired and play many hours - and would be what is also considered a power leveller, no matter what the profession I have chosen, now and in the past, in all online games I have played. I earn my own keep and don't go begging for others to make my living. However, please don't forget not all medics/doctors have the time to support their character like I do.


So if you think things are going to change - they won't.


TANSTAAFL




LuciusClay
Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:57 am
#13

I'm planning on going out with a group to heal them today so I can get that final push to master medic so it's fresh in my mind what it takes to prepare for something like that. I spent 8 hours yesterday sampling resources so that I can make meds just for this day of hunting. Those stimpacks and wound packs will probably not last more than 2 hours and I'll be lucky to get that last 24k xp that I need. When was the last time a marksman spent 8 hours preparing for a mission? I currently have 0, thats right exactly 0 credits to my name because jack asses like you think that medicine is free and that we medics are just there to do your bidding and get walked on. Once I get master medic and move on to novice doctor I will not be healing anymore of you dewds or roxxerboys until I get paid. We're all just a little sick of the attitude so either be a medic yourself, pay us, or shut the hell up.
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