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Thread: Space BH MIssions....

DayWalkerRori
Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:14 am
#1

These could be NPC missions agenst Smugglers Etc and/or PvP Missions (Smugglers, Jedi, Etc, Etc)


I beleve they would bring some real life into space flight...


ArdenStarmariner
Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:12 am
#2

Or some of your NPC ground marks could escape into space on occassion making you track them there.




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lexington23
Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:15 am
#3


If they impliment BH tracking jedi players into space, then they better impliment jedi flight bonuses as well. Personally, I would rather they leave that whole can of worms closed.

Message Edited by lexington23 on 01-06-2005 07:16 AM

ArdenStarmariner
Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:20 am
#4


lexington23 wrote:
If they impliment BH tracking jedi players into space, then they better impliment jedi flight bonuses as well. Personally, I would rather they leave that whole can of worms closed.

Message Edited by lexington23 on 01-06-2005 07:16 AM





I've come to the conclusion that the entire Jedi vs Bounty Hunter is just a bad idea. Because of it, Jedi is crap not worth bothering with. The Village is fun content but I'll never bother to do the exit quest.

Message Edited by ArdenStarmariner on 01-06-2005 10:22 AM




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ScReemB
Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:28 am
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lexington23 wrote:


If they impliment BH tracking jedi players into space, then they better impliment jedi flight bonuses as well. Personally, I would rather they leave that whole can of worms closed.

Message Edited by lexington23 on 01-06-2005 07:16 AM






Why should jedi get a flight bonus if they can be tracked while in space? No one else gets a bonus in space and if jedi get another addition to their skills everyone else would want a similar addition to their jtl template based on their ground profession.


As it is with the way space works it will be even easier for a jedi to avoid a bh in space than on the ground as with the ability to hyperspace anywhere by time the bh loads into space to search at the last known location the jedi can be in any system before the bh can get near them. They then can land at any planet and the bh using some space search device will lose them and have to relook using planetary search again from the ground. As by time any search in space could be finished the jedi has landed, reached the local cantina and is having a few drinks with the boys.


If the jedi want a fighter of their own ala the jedi fighter from Episode 2 then by all means they could get that but no additional skill bonuses as jtl is twitched based.




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KyrYxus
Thu Jan 06, 2005 2:29 pm
#6

It is inevitable that space bounties will exist. For the Jedi that feel that they shouldn't exist then you should not be able to launch into space while being hunted. Oh wait that's not fair and ruins part of your gaming experience? Hmmmm.... do you not think that your ability to go play in space whenever you hear of a BH after you hampers their gameplay?



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TK-118
Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:22 pm
#7

If jedi got a bonus in space i would leave the game and never return, cause if jedi got a bonus in space then they would use like "force make ship go faster and give me weapons 5000000000+ dmg for 2days"



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I destroy, therefore I endure." -IG-88

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ScReemB
Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:29 am
#8


One newly unlocked jediin the beta jtl forums asked for force shields and force blasts to be added for jtl as he was jedi and wanted the skills for space. These will never happen as the moment they do a lot of people will make similar claims for their chosen ground profession or they will say enoughs enough and leave over the SOE pandering yet again to jedis.


I said in the beta forums at the time to this new jedi that enough is enough and its time for other professions and the combat revamp to be done first before they even think about touching jedi again. As jedi have had more than enough fixes, publishes to date and they need to live with what they have until everyone else has been sorted.




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Slarus
Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:40 am
#9


Why should jedi get a flight bonus if they can be tracked while in space? No one else gets a bonus in space and if jedi get another addition to their skills everyone else would want a similar addition to their jtl template based on their ground profession.


Here we go with the Jedi take ALL risks and BHs get ALL rewards. The answer is simple if you intend to hut and penalise the Jedi then you must give the Jedi his abilities to be fair.

Slarus
Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:45 am
#10


It is inevitable that space bounties will exist. For the Jedi that feel that they shouldn't exist then you should not be able to launch into space while being hunted. Oh wait that's not fair and ruins part of your gaming experience? Hmmmm.... do you not think that your ability to go play in space whenever you hear of a BH after you hampers their gameplay?


This is based on "I am a BH and when I pick that mission to hunt a Jedi, I deserve the reward" Well your wrong you havent finished the mission when you pick it. Two, A Jedi escaping into space only delays the hunt, you still have the mission, the mission doesnt fail when a Jedi goes into space, nothing unfair has happened with JTL. While some may run into space to hide, again we come to risk vs. reward. The Jedi has ZERO reason to stand and fight, so why should they? They dont get XP, loot, badges. Jedi will always run for the most part till SOE gives a Jedi a reason to stand and fight. Till thay do that Space is a valid retreat to actually enjoy the game for a change. Do you not think that your ability tohunt a Jediwhenever youwant hampers their gameplay?
Mael_BH
Fri Jan 07, 2005 8:39 am
#11

how 'bout this:

1. out marks (NPC) can, when they run to a starport launch into space where we can follow them and let their skill as a pilot be related directly to their level for BH. (invest 1 mark = tier 1 pilot, invest 2 mark = tier 2 pilot, etc).

2. let us hunt jedi in space but have it cost them say 1/10th the xp from a normal "kill" as you don't really die when you get blown up in space. or maybe have it cost no xp for the jedi since they can't gain any jedi xp in space.

3. if a bh gets blown up from a mark have the repair cause no decay and the same would go for a jedi if they got killed by a bh.

4. i don't think jedi should get any "real" powers in space as it is a twitch game, but for jedi who have that vehicle control tree let them get small bonuses to pyr rates (no less then 10% increase), a slightly shorter time for target lock with ordinance, slightly better range with weapons, shorter time between special commands. subtle things like that wouldn't be too bad and wouldn't really be too overpowered as some of them can be countered by having better equipment and the rest can be handled by learning to fly better and to use better tactics.



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spatuluk
Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:00 am
#12

I don't recall Jedi having advantages in space in the films, other than having their own starfighter which wasn't any better than anyone elses anyway. It might be quite cool if they had their own jedi starfighter. The trouble there is, what special fighter would a dark jedi have?

The ease of jumping to hyperspace would make bounty hunting in space a pretty pointless exercise. The BH might be able to land some damage on the jedis ship before he hyperspaces, but I doubt he'll ever actually destroy their ship. Also, how do you DB in space?




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Mael_BH
Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:10 am
#13

well, you wouldn't db in space so the win would have to trigger when the jedi's ship blows up and it really only take 2 maybe 4 hits to take somebody out in space.



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