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Infinity [Gray-dark] 10 times ACE PILOT & only gay jedi in the vlillage
Infinity [Kaga] 2 times ACE PILOT & intergalactic Arsonist
Infinity [Foxeh] SHES BEHIND YOU!!!

Major Rapax Victis - Commando
Time wasted playing MMO's:
Meridian59, Ultima Online, Everquest, Asheron's Call 1 & 2, Dark Age of Camelot, Anarchy Online, Earth & Beyond, Eve Online, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies
"I'm really bored."
...has mastered the Pilot profession

Besides the lack of motivation once at master, I know alot of people that kinda deside to call it quits around teir 3 & 4. Also it hink the lack of a PVP sytem available to all pilots not just the masters is what drives alot of people away. WIth all the corvettes and stuff in DS it can be hard to fight with out runnin into one. ANd one more thing, all the uber 1337 folks dont last anylonger than some poor smuck you just got a master ship withtwo 3k dmg guns on it. THeir expensive armor and grinding dont ensure victory so they stay away.

I think part of the problem is the fact that PvP in space is a two second long endeavor. Player A is in Deep Space looking for loot, red dots all over his radar. Player B sees the all telling stream of blaster fire that shows that speck in the distance is a player rather than an NPC. After seeing this Player B locks player A up and fires off a salvo of missiles. Player A either drops one of his very limited supply of countermeasures or like most players thinks it an NPC missile that is really not much of a threat and let's it (them) though. Player A is dead in the few seconds all that took place in. Even without missiles one to three good hits can do in most players.

Another part is the fact that there's nothing that comes from PvP in space. You don't get faction, you don't get a PvP rating, you don't get anything other than bragging rights. Even that isn't much when you take the first paragraph into consideration. I've participated in three large scale space PvP events on Starsider, and each kill, or death, left me feeling a bit of disappointment after that initial rush of excitement.

A scale down in PvP damage would do alot to help. It would allow for fights to last more than a few seconds. Having your target indicator change to an attacking player after the first shot, if you're targetting an NPC, would also be a welcomed feature IMO. The problem with a scale down in damage is that it would only further the gap between higher level pilots and lower level pilots pretty much taking the lower tiers out of PvP. A tier two pilot with 1k (and that's generous) weapons knocked down 60% wouldn't even be able to scratch an ace with a level ten shield. On the other hand a scaled damage system would only serve to nullify the benefits of being a higher level in PvP. Such as: An ace level pilot has his damage reduced 60% and a tier two has his reduced by 20% to keep him competetive end up with both players doing essentially the same ammount of damage regardless of pilot rank.

It's a tricky thing. I can only hope that people smarter than I am are working on it, because something needs to be changed to bring some life to PvP in space.

"Basically, once you see the inner workings of the Dev team you realize their game model is really just grind and stall. Make the players grind and grind so they keep paying and when there are problems stall stall stall so they keep paying waiting for fixes. Really...all the cores that quit recently are the ones that have figured this out."
--A Wise Soul

Major Rapax Victis - Commando
Time wasted playing MMO's:
Meridian59, Ultima Online, Everquest, Asheron's Call 1 & 2, Dark Age of Camelot, Anarchy Online, Earth & Beyond, Eve Online, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies
"I'm really bored."
...has mastered the Pilot profession

I'd say that using the "target nearest hostile player" frequently would be viable only if you were using it every few seconds as thats about how long it could take another player to indentify you, target you and blast you from the stars.

Even in a sea of NPC's at a distance you can spot the player. NPC's are flying around, gernerally not sticking on a target for more than a second or two and sqeezing off shots occasionally. The player, however, is going to stick on a target and send an almost constant stream of fire at the target until it is destroyed. At least thats my observation. So as I fly around deepspace and see in the distance that player he would have to (in the middle of his current fight) use the "target nearest hostile player" to even notice me until I've already begun my attack run on him. It's not very useful unless you are already expecting an enemy.

"Basically, once you see the inner workings of the Dev team you realize their game model is really just grind and stall. Make the players grind and grind so they keep paying and when there are problems stall stall stall so they keep paying waiting for fixes. Really...all the cores that quit recently are the ones that have figured this out."
--A Wise Soul

I'm Overt in deep space quite often, however I hardly never get to actually PvP. Always just end up farming FP.

I'd say that PvP in deep space doesn't happen because of two things:

1. A rather crappy PvP system - Only a very few fast, small ships are viable. Big ships can pack some more firepower and bigger shields, which means nothing since we all die from just a few shots anyway.

2. Absolutely no purpose to the PvP in deep space. - Yeah, so I just turned the Star Destroyer into a billion burning pieces. Big deal. No point to this, nothing is gained or lost on the greater scheme of things. No strategical value to it all. Heck, even the idea they had during beta with the "winner" in deep space would force loot-heavy transport spawns of the opposing side in Kessel would have done something to encourage PvP.

It's pretty sad that I saw more PvP during just a few days ofJTL beta than I have seen on the live servers since JTL was released. It's also pretty sad that people argued vehemently for Kessel remaining a gank-fest when it turns out that no one PvPs anyway.

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Particle effects, BAD!!! Nice, realistic graphics, GOOD!!!

Major Rapax Victis - Commando
Time wasted playing MMO's:
Meridian59, Ultima Online, Everquest, Asheron's Call 1 & 2, Dark Age of Camelot, Anarchy Online, Earth & Beyond, Eve Online, Planetside, Star Wars Galaxies
"I'm really bored."
...has mastered the Pilot profession