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Ragnaat
Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:27 am
#1

Just opened SWG and was greeted with the first part of the Publish 7 trickle out...

So all you smugglers start beating the living crap out of those Jawas so you have a big pile of junk to... uh... sell to those Jawas!



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Ternque01
Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:33 am
#2

You can do that to a point, then the negative faction builds up so fast
that you are KOS (Kill on Sight) for the little guys... and they're so
cute too



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Jediwind
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:28 pm
#3


Hey fellowCommandos master commando here,Like alot of us here we are waiting till commando is revamped or given more *stuff* I was wondering and this has to be answered by those who know.

where is commando profession heading? i have read some threads and couldnt read them all do to timeand it seemssome things are gonna happan and tell me if i am wrong plz. 1. Commandos are gonna be turret gunner. 2. commando is gonna be spec ops ex. sneaking into bases and kicking the crap out of some imps 3.Commando is gonna be given better *Heavy weps* but 1 shot hit to us we die. You know i feel things are looking up but still i am wondering what is likely gonan turn out with my profession. i would liek to do spec op type ofstuff than take out ATSTs that i rarely see or turrets that i also rarely see. that is my 1 cent



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Message Edited by Jediwind on 04-16-2004 09:36 PM



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Thobbit
Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:15 pm
#4

Ive been reading what everyone has to say about the commando career. and I agree with almost everthing people are saying. But (and this is just my thoughts on the matter) the changes will not be done in one big move. The devs, in my mind, are haveing to try and please everyone. There are many people commandos included that like the commando tree as is, and if you totally change the tree many will be upset. Also I dont think it is an easy task to change the tree. people want weapons added, but for the Devs to do that they need to get with the WS department to come up with the weapon and how to make and... Im sure the list goes on. Another thing is that I dont think the Devs can make the commando to skilled in PvPAND PvE. it will make the commando way to stong. Now Im all for making the commando the Strongest, Hardest, and most undefeatable charactor in the game, but if the Devs do this there will be 30+ careers yelling at them to make us weaker or make them stonger.


I have more to say but I will stop right there.


I say ask for changes, hell I want the commando to have better Defence and if I had that I would be a happy camper, but dont yell at them for a change. One will come to make us all happy for awhile untill we want something else. I suggest making small requests and to be polite about it. In the end that way will work out the best. Also make your suggestions after looking at it from the Devs point of veiw. Take in consideration the other careers.


Sorry if you dont like what I said, and remember these are just my thoughts on the matter. I could be totaly off on what I said. If you have anything to add or remove let me know. And please keep the childish remarks to yourself. There are enough of those on the other treads.


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thepunisher286
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:13 pm
#5






Commandos become turret gunner? I can see it happnening. But Im not at all for it to come before a revamp or something.


Spec ops? Best all around fighter, very lethal to every enemy we encounter - sure. That would actualy justify out 169 skill points used to become a marksman witha flamethrower.


Better weapons? It better happen... or give us rifleman style speed...so we can hit speed can and do flamesingle every second


Right now, theres nothing that exacly says what the SWG commando actualy does. We dont even know ourselves. The proffesion is a bigger mess than Donald Trumps hair and a fix could take months.


A lot of ideas are being thrown around on the combat role of commando and how we should compare in damage with every other elite proffesion. Some people still think we should be anti-tank, althoug theres no tanks, and at-st's can be taken down easily by a buffed group. Some say we should be ( like you ) spec ops; taking out enemies at any range, swiftly, and very effectively.


Right now, were the main heat damage dealers. Once TKM gets thier new toy we areat the point where it is at the same level of usefull ness as... squad leader. Yes.. i said it!

Message Edited by thepunisher286 on 04-17-2004 11:30 PM

Jediwind
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:22 pm
#6


Dude We commandos have been Fed over long enough,all combat professions in this game have to be evenin PVP and PVE,that is the key factor is knowing if a profession is broke or not.think about it for a sec, you kill 3 strom troopers BUT when one PC imp comes at youdeath comes in 2 secs now how silly is that.I dont know a commando that says we are fine if so than they dont PVP long enough as i had. I have tryed many different ways to PVP with commando and i allways die the same. KDed mind gone or Miss miss miss miss, the missing part is notso bad but those 2 ways of dieing is now just silly, TKAs flame me and CMs flame because they know. I am tired of running at people and flaming them and spending the rest of the fight with my face to the ground or a brain drain. I for one am not asking for commando to own everyone but i want to feel like a commando not a novice marksman in combat the above. some will reply to this message and tell me that we are not weak and we do kill people. 1.unarmored 2.noob char stats 3.unbuffed 4.weak weapons. My guild members allways tell me that i should drop commando and hop the train to rifleman or Combat medic (Bio-terrorist) but i wont bow. i would rather live with the flame thrower being taken out of game and replaced with a/more combat weapons that fit this profession.As before people tell me that if commando was right it would own everyone that truth is that they are partly right,would a novice gunfighter(someone who basicly knows his way around a pistol) kill a

spec ops person(trained in all forms of combat) if the pistol is lucky and maybe trained a bit maybe. master gunfighter vs commando I think master gunfigther would put a few shots in the commandos butt before he gets a shot unless he uses tactics. i go on and on about this telling what professions with better shots at a true commando but i feel like i am blowing smoke.



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Jediwind
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:26 pm
#7

I try not to use the books but from what i read they are like spec ops. tho the info is small



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thepunisher286
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:27 pm
#8

Thats the big problem. Its not possible to make every one happy with combat. There will always be those type of people who have fits of anger when they lose in pvp and complain to high heaven about how gimped they are/how over powered we are.


Were not yelling at the devs per say, but if the devs would work on a better level with the player base that they try to fix, there wouldnt be such a huge problem.


IMO its just realy bad management. A list of requests from each proffesion is given to the devs, but for some reason, they dont seem to respond back with things they cant or wont do and try to work things out. Wether this happens or not, but theres needs to be an hour or 2 long session with correspondants and devs to talk about the most important things and negotiate what will be implimented in the next publish.


Speaking about publishes, does any one else feel these take a little too long to be released into the game? I mean, sometimes the publishes dont even seem like they added much but a few goody looking weapon models and some title changes, oh, I cant forget the R2 with an llc in its belly lol!
StarNick
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:42 pm
#9

Kyle Katarn was a commando...

Crix Madine was a commando...


The Rebel Soldiers w/ Han and company on Endor were commandos...

The ARC Troopers were commandos...


Dash Rendar could be considered a commando...


The Majority of the info on commandos i believe are really from the games....which the devs obviously didnt consult...absolutely none of the already defined SW Hvy weapons or commando/spec ops weapons...zilch...and how they regard the class..is NOT a SW Commando at all...but like the Hvy Weapons Trooper from Infantry....meanwhile the commando in that game..can CLOAK himself..SNIPE...and do HIDDEN SNEAK ATTACKS..and is VERY POWERFUL ON THE MOVE...but he has low defenses in a straight fight..we cant fight a straight fight atm....but we arent very powerful either...


Devs need to go back to Dark Forces and play a few levels...or try Republic Commando...or look at our own Armed Forces



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--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

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Jediwind
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:52 pm
#10

yeah I dont think they did that, maybe they wanted somethign that can take out a ATST



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StarNick
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:55 pm
#11

The publishes are sorta coming in faster I think...but they come and go at the end of the month (like in the mid-20's) so it really seems like a long time when its not...


but i do agree...alot of the "new stuff" in publishes...are weak and too few


But alot of bugs, unnoticed by us get fixed...truely..the dev's got publishes mixed up with Fixes


The true publishes are the mini ones with the dungeons..thats true content..and we prolly wont see a True Content Publish until long after SE...





--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

StarNick
Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:56 pm
#12


on Shadows of the Empire..Old Dashy Baby took out an At-St single handidly with Seeker Rockets..and a rechargable Blaster pistol...




Edit: Lmao..try doing that with RL...seekers at least home..most likely you'll miss a few shots, and only hit weak pings off the armour with an RL... by yourself that is

Message Edited by StarNick on 04-18-2004 02:57 AM



--Stern Synex-- --Master Commando-- --IDI Forces--
--Proud Commando of 42 Months-- --Last Commando Correspondent--

We fear no enemy...we are the few, the proud, and the brave. We are, Commando!

Pyro Games

bdtx
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:12 am
#13

Game is getting old fast. Seems like the bosses bend over backwards for everyone else. Don't know if its true or not but been hearing this new berzerker gun is for master rifleman. Is this so they can kill us faster? Whats next TKA's being able to nuke us or maybe they get damage sheilds so if we get to hit them oncewe kill ourselfs instead. New commando armor pink dresses and flower hats.SWG days are numbered for me.
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