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Thread: Why isnt there any high lvl TIE/in Z-95 or Scyk for players
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Vicotnik
Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:34 pm
#2
Just wanna point out something: The A-wing actually is a Tier 4 ship. You might mean the Z-95. 
Hellscream420
Sat Nov 13, 2004 8:47 pm
#3
oh opps 
but still you should be able to cruise around ina z-95 "headhunter"as amaster pilot and be able to kill tier 4-5 stuff, as it is you have to use low lvl items to fit on the smaller mass, you might be able to fit 1 or 2 lvl 8,9 or 10 items intoa ship but it leaves little room to use the high lvl items needed to hunt anything beyond teir 2-3. Even an A-wing would benefit from a tier 5, master pilot's only, ship, with slightly more mass then its tier 4 equilivilent
but still you should be able to cruise around ina z-95 "headhunter"as amaster pilot and be able to kill tier 4-5 stuff, as it is you have to use low lvl items to fit on the smaller mass, you might be able to fit 1 or 2 lvl 8,9 or 10 items intoa ship but it leaves little room to use the high lvl items needed to hunt anything beyond teir 2-3. Even an A-wing would benefit from a tier 5, master pilot's only, ship, with slightly more mass then its tier 4 equilivilent
NanokTaemon
Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:12 pm
#4
I agree.
Eventually, we're going to see too many Firesprays, Decimators, Rihkxyrks, Opressors, B-Wings, etc etc and none of the other ships. I would love to have a little Scyk that is beefed up with high-powered lasers.
However, either way, I'm going to stick with Slicer X, which is my Rihkxyrk heavy fighter. I love it. 
Tsimhnori
Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:30 pm
#5
NanokTaemon wrote:I agree.Eventually, we're going to see too many Firesprays, Decimators, Rihkxyrks, Opressors, B-Wings, etc etc and none of the other ships. I would love to have a little Scyk that is beefed up with high-powered lasers.However, either way, I'm going to stick with Slicer X, which is my Rihkxyrk heavy fighter. I love it.
Well... I disagree with the b-wings and opressors... people who pvp are going to fly A-Winds and TIE Advanced over those things.
Hellscream420
Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:00 am
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I been loving JTL since it came out but one thing Ive noticed is thatlow lvl ties, a-wings, and scyks (along with other lower tier/mass ships) are not being used because usally the next best ship is always better... most people fly around in the higher lvl ships cause low lvl ships have to low a mass to hold the higher lvl weapons, what would be a cool idea for the devsto add(if possible) would be to make teir 4/5 quality ships out of lower lvl chassis'. Too stop 'newbies' from using these higher lvl ships just put some kind of lvl req. so that a 1000 pilot wouldnt be able to use a tier 4/5 TIE/in, you could put the req. for a tier 4 TIE/in in the same skill box as the TIE advanced and Tie Aggressor. My idea would be to add each ship cert from lower teir boxes to the next highest box (with an increase to that versions mass hp) eventually going to to master, where you would have the option to choose from alltier1-5 ships in your profession at tier 5 stats for each chassis. I mean the NPC have tier5 TIE/ins and tier 5 a-wings, why shouldnt players.
I wouldlike to fly around in a low lvl scyk or a low lvl tie but its just not possible to take that same shipto any of the "dangerous" planetsbecause you cannot fit high lvl weapons, armor, andequipmentonto it.Addinghigher mass versions of the same shipwould definitly increase ships options for higher tier players, and create more diversity in the sky,
Feedback would be great on this topic, especialy from you devs /wink /wink
/wink /winkMessage Edited by Hellscream420 on 11-13-2004 01:26 PM
Message Edited by Hellscream420 on 11-13-2004 08:03 PM
Hellscream420
Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:14 am
#7
yaI see people leaning towards the faster smaller ships in pvp, they are hard to hit, have very nice speeds, and are highly manuverable but I do think the higher mass ships would compete well with the fast A-wings and TIE aggressors in pvp as they can have better armor/shields and more weapons slots, just depends on the skills of the pilot and the accuracy of your shots. I think adding some more alternatives for master pilots to fly in, it would increase the over-all pvp expirence
Hellscream420
Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:33 pm
#8
Dang,Ithought this topic would get more replies, I know its not a problem that needs to be fixed or some serious bug, but something like this could add a good deal of content to space that seems to be lacking (space POI content,ship diversity,etc) and would improve gameplay by giving us more options to explore IF we get bored with our regular ship or IF groups want to make an Elite TIE/in onlysquadran or whatever. I dont think we should be limited to 'master level' ships justbecauselower tier ships have a cap on the mass
FantasticPlastic
Mon Nov 15, 2004 5:45 am
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I agree, more or less. I like the TIE Interceptor and would love to fly it all the time, but I made Master now. The TIE Oppressor looks like a starship factory threw up, so I haven't decided about picking one of those up yet.
I'm also disappointed in the TIE Bomber and Decimator. There really seems to be very little point in the heavy "tank" ships because they have such a limited mobility--but they still can't hold as many guns as a single Privateer Rik ship. So the Rik has more firepower, more mobility, and apparently quite good defenses as well.
What would be the incentive to actually use a TIE Bomber?
O.
I'm also disappointed in the TIE Bomber and Decimator. There really seems to be very little point in the heavy "tank" ships because they have such a limited mobility--but they still can't hold as many guns as a single Privateer Rik ship. So the Rik has more firepower, more mobility, and apparently quite good defenses as well.
What would be the incentive to actually use a TIE Bomber?
O.
2-DIMENTIONALGUY
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:22 am
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I think it's a great idea. For fun I loaded a Black sun light fighter with a reactor, a FAST engine, a cap and a lvl 6 gun and flew it around to see how long I could live. I was out manuvering tier 4 A-wings but if I get hit once it was over for me. I would love to be able to use the potential equipment available. Hell, as a 4433 priveteer I am using teh Black Sun heavy and I have it maxed on mass with level 7 components, and as this is the last fighter I get (not including teh KSE firespray, I still have a LONG way to go to get that) what am I gonna do with levle 8-10 compnents?
Coran_Sienar
Mon Nov 15, 2004 6:30 am
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I'd like to see mass eliminated from ships and components. It would add a lot to the variety of ships in space.
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