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idolatry
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:53 pm
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Spir4 wrote:


Shields:
- recharge rate: the higher, the better







I'd disagree with that. When you're using Cap to Shield Shunt (which you should be) recharge doesn't matter at all. Should be going for front/rear shield hitpoints over recharge.



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Spir4
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:16 pm
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idolatry wrote:


I'd disagree with that. When you're using Cap to Shield Shunt (which you should be) recharge doesn't matter at all. Should be going for front/rear shield hitpoints over recharge.






Come again ?

Sorry I don't know that much about all that space stuff, so please explain what you just said, thx
idolatry
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:40 pm
#3




Spir4 wrote:
Come again ?

Sorry I don't know that much about all that space stuff, so please explain what you just said, thx





Here's a good thread on what stats to be looking for on looted components.


As for the recharge thing.. the recharge number is how many points of shield energy that get recharged every tick. 13 recharge on a 2000 HP shield would take 2.5 minutes to recharge.


If you use Capacitor to Shield Shunt 4 (a privateer droid program), you'll be dumping your entire capacitor into the shield. So if you're running a capactor with 1000 energy, that would be 4x shunts to recharge the whole thing, so about 40-60 seconds, depending on your droid interface and how fast your capacitor recharges.


It's all about balance. Yeah, a high recharge is nice, but it won't help you as much as a high shield HP rating.





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Spir4
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:25 pm
#4


yep you are right,

but it's quite obvious that the higher the hitpoints and armor of certain components are the better.

My testings were purely based on all the different kinds of rates (refire rate, recharge rate) the components have.


So, besides the hp your shield has, it is still a fact that the higher the recharge rate is, the better


And another thing, I am a Rebel pilot, so I don't have that command

Message Edited by Spir4 on 07-16-2005 08:35 AM

idolatry
Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:56 pm
#5






Spir4 wrote:




And another thing, I am a Rebel pilot, so I don't have that command





Yeah you do. Grab an unprogrammed droid command module, take it to your favourite Privateer ace, and ask them nicely to burn you a copy. P2P filesharing is alive and well in SWG



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Spir4
Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:29 am
#6

Okay I did the following experiments on ship components because I kept hearing different kind of stuff from different kind of people.

I tested out the following:


Weapons:
- refire rate: the lower, the better

Capacitator:
- recharge rate: the higher, the better


Engine:
- everything (yaw, pitch, roll, speed) the higher the better


Droid interface:
- speed: the lower the better


Booster:

- top speed: the higher, the better
- recharge rate: the higher, the better
- comsumption rate: the lower, the better


Shields:
- recharge rate: the higher, the better


Normally those test results are correct, but if you find something incorrect, please let me know


Spyra
psikobunny
Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:10 am
#7






idolatry wrote:





Spir4 wrote:


Shields:
- recharge rate: the higher, the better







I'd disagree with that. When you're using Cap to Shield Shunt (which you should be) recharge doesn't matter at all. Should be going for front/rear shield hitpoints over recharge.





Go ahead and disagree, but that just makes you wrong. What he said is true, maybe not important in the current environment, but it's still true. He didnt say recharge was more important than hp, he just was talking about the stat. Personally, I always go for the high charge rate when I put together a shield for RE, just because it makes one les thing to remember between fights, and CtSS might not always make recharge pointless.



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idolatry
Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:21 am
#8







psikobunny wrote:

Go ahead and disagree, but that just makes you wrong. What he said is true, maybe not important in the current environment, but it's still true. He didnt say recharge was more important than hp, he just was talking about the stat. Personally, I always go for the high charge rate when I put together a shield for RE, just because it makes one les thing to remember between fights, and CtSS might not always make recharge pointless.






How about I quote myself, then, when the OP asked for clarification:







It's all about balance. Yeah, a high recharge is nice, but it won't help you as much as a high shield HP rating.




From the OP, to me, it looked like he was stating which stats he thought were the most important on each component. Personally, I think HP are more important than recharge. You have your own opinion, that's fine, but it doesn't make my opinion wrong.



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Spir4
Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:01 am
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idolatry wrote:


From the OP, to me, it looked like he was stating which stats he thought were the most important on each component. Personally, I think HP are more important than recharge. You have your own opinion, that's fine, but it doesn't make my opinion wrong.






hehe no, I mentioned only the stats I tested, not the stats I think which are the most important ones


and about those droid chips, I can't use those, I can only use Astromechs in my ships. But maybe I could transfer an astromecht do a privateer and ask him to put that command on it, don't know
but still, I don't think it is possible to do that. Don't you need a certain certification to be able to use a command ?


Bucke-Thead
Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:07 am
#10



Spir4 wrote:


idolatry wrote:

From the OP, to me, it looked like he was stating which stats he thought were the most important on each component. Personally, I think HP are more important than recharge. You have your own opinion, that's fine, but it doesn't make my opinion wrong.


hehe no, I mentioned only the stats I tested, not the stats I think which are the most important ones

and about those droid chips, I can't use those, I can only use Astromechs in my ships. But maybe I could transfer an astromecht do a privateer and ask him to put that command on it, don't know
but still, I don't think it is possible to do that. Don't you need a certain certification to be able to use a command ?






You can transfer the droid OR use the command chip and program that yourself.

Once the chip is in your inventory, the program on it can be used in your droid. You do NOT need the skill to use a command, the skill is simply to program it.

My Pilots all have an identical setup of droid programs and use a mixture of privateer and imperial commands. Rebel ones are so poor it is embarrasing

If you don't know an ace to assist, then try the bazaar. Most programs can be found there



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Spir4
Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:15 am
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Bucke-Thead wrote:

You can transfer the droid OR use the command chip and program that yourself.

Once the chip is in your inventory, the program on it can be used in your droid. You do NOT need the skill to use a command, the skill is simply to program it.

My Pilots all have an identical setup of droid programs and use a mixture of privateer and imperial commands. Rebel ones are so poor it is embarrasing

If you don't know an ace to assist, then try the bazaar. Most programs can be found there





ah cool didn't knowt that, thx for the info
Cyrus_Biddissi
Tue Jul 19, 2005 2:43 am
#12






idolatry wrote:


I'd disagree with that. When you're using Cap to Shield Shunt (which you should be) recharge doesn't matter at all. Should be going for front/rear shield hitpoints over recharge.





This is a matter of opinion. I've never used any droid/flight computer commands, and never needed to. I do wonder why a lot of people swear by them. I get on perfectly fine without them.


I'd definitely like a higher recharge rate. If I can have a 3300 front/back shield with 18 recharge rate that suits me better than a 3500 with say...15 recharge rate (this is refering to elite shields).


The same goes for capacitors (although I did hear there was some bug regarding recharge), I'd rather have a cap with 1100 energy and 63 recharge rather than 1500 energy with 55 recharge (again elite stuff), if you have a quick recharge the thing will never run dry.


This is just my opinion and not meant to be a flame in anyway...just incase someone gets the wrong idea.


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idolatry
Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:13 am
#13






Cyrus_Biddissi wrote:



This is a matter of opinion. I've never used any droid/flight computer commands, and never needed to. I do wonder why a lot of people swear by them. I get on perfectly fine without them.







No one *needs* to use any, but they improve the performance of your ship so much that you'd just be handicapping yourself unnecessarily. Just for fun, go load some up and hit EO3. First time that runs, I'm pretty sure you'll be hooked.





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