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KyleKnox

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:20 am

Your argument is fundamentally flawed Arjun because you IGNORE the 2.5 tree cap. This conversion is fundamentally unfair because EVERY jedi is stripped of the ability to get 3 trees. 4444 guardians have them now. Remember your top five, our top five - we asked for defenses and ls damage change (salient to this discussion) NO WHERE DID ANYONE think exisitng jedi were too powerful - quite the contrary.

For conversion to be fair, WE HAVE TO HAVE THREE trees as the cap. Then you can play games with numbers and weight skill boxes in those trees to figure out what percentage of 54 boxes any ONE given box is worth in the new system of what SHOULD BE 54 boxes (instead it is 45 atm). For example LS1 could be 1/4 of a box while apprentice is 4 boxes. BUT in the end teh TOTAL has to equal 54 boxes, or three trees.

The devs are DEAD wrong here. They pulled these xp numbers out of their ASS and are beating us over the head with them. THere is nothing fair about this nerf. You don't want to be in their corner here Arjun on something that SCREWS over EVERY exisitng jedi sooner or later.

Message Edited by KyleKnox on 06-05-2004 11:24 AM

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BenkeDuBir

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:22 am

#93

why have you removed your post, have you told us something you shouldnt have?

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MrMud

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:25 am

#94

I understand what you are saying but your reasoning is flawed. You cannot compare the rate at which you gain exp at initiate with the rate you gain exp at guardian.

Just like you cant make as much exp per hour with unarmed 1-4 as you can as TKA you cant make as much exp per hour as initiate compared to guardian.

You will by far make exp more than twice as fast as guardian but why should you be rewarded for that? Shouldnt you be rewarded according to the TIME spent in grind mode instead of having played for 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks.

The only thing this system does is punish those who are late unlockers and simply havent had the time to get as far in the jedi tree. You have to realise this Arjun please.

I dont think box to box conversion is that great of an idea either but this is even worse and this is especially true for us initiates. What i would rather want is an exp conversion that actually takes into consideration that you level with the relative speed of a slug before you get flurry1.

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ArjunThakur

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:26 am

#95

BenkeDuBir wrote:
why have you removed your post, have you told us something you shouldnt have?

Nope, but I hear what the community is saying and I've updated our action requests

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KyleKnox

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:31 am

#96

MrMud wrote:

I understand what you are saying but your reasoning is flawed. You cannot compare the rate at which you gain exp at initiate with the rate you gain exp at guardian.

Just like you cant make as much exp per hour with unarmed 1-4 as you can as TKA you cant make as much exp per hour as initiate compared to guardian.

You will by far make exp more than twice as fast as guardian but why should you be rewarded for that? Shouldnt you be rewarded according to the TIME spent in grind mode instead of having played for 3 weeks instead of 2 weeks.

The only thing this system does is punish those who are late unlockers and simply havent had the time to get as far in the jedi tree. You have to realise this Arjun please.

I dont think box to box conversion is that great of an idea either but this is even worse and this is especially true for us initiates. What i would rather want is an exp conversion that actually takes into consideration that you level with the relative speed of a slug before you get flurry1.

You are DEAD on here. The initiate tree, while less xp, took me 4x longer, or more, then the guardian tree to complete. EXCELLENT POINT. And Arjun, please comment on the 2.5 cap.

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Zilod

Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:32 am

#97

as a jedi apprentice i will be happy with a 1:1 conversion anyway

i think that basing conversion ratio just to xp of boxes is not fair too, why?

because for a novice is also harder to gain xps, you have low force power to use moves, you have not any decent attack, xps you grab from creatures are capped and so on...

so is not that getting 800k xps is like to get 800k at master when you get 3x xps for a single death and can span flurry to take out 5 enraged rancors at once

we can also do similar considerations for sabre xps

yup they go up quite fast but probably at apprentice i spent as much time to grab 4 0 0 0 as to grab the first skill box in other 3 lines.

another consideration about FS slots

as said above there are people that have spent a lot of time to grind almost all profession to unlock these skills, they have done what the new system will award as FS skills

so why a guy that maybe have just unlocked his slot this week after grinding maybe 30 professions and have just te time to grab first skills in novice have to see his effort poof using the few jedi skills he got to purchase something that he worked for months to get?

maybe if he opened 3 months ago at prof n10 will be now a guardian 4/4/4/4...

if you want to give credit for difficulty you have to take in account these things... for example grab apprentice 4 4 4 4 is harder than grab guardian 4 4 4 4 as probably novice 0 1 1 1 is harder to get than guardian 0 1 1 1

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