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Thread: Why do I have to have a group for solo missions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Arkaonn
Wed Nov 03, 2004 11:08 pm
#79
I'm a rebel alliance pilot at 3-2-2-2 and im on my 2nd mission for tier 3. I've attempted this mission for 2 nights now.I've tried it 11 times and each time i've failed. I've tried it solo, with a guildmate flyin with me, and with 2 strangers i asked for help from. None of it made a difference. We do fine untill it comes to the tier 5 ships. As soon as I get to the waypoint they are there and im dead in 1 pass usualy. When I had the 2 others with me I lasted the 1st pass and did ok for awhile. I disabled and inspected 2 of the ships,but then another wave came at us and that was it.
I like the ships and fighting its alot of fun.I think the dev's have done a great job on this expansion.But after these last 2 nights and all the time wasted it's frustrating and no longer fun. I have enough experience points to finish out the other 3 boxes of tier 3.but it's doing me do good because I cannot do the mission.
I don't mind grouping never have,but it should be each persons choice not a requirement. Escpecially when it's obvious were not talkin about a 1-2 person group for these missions,but alot more.
UKMars
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:06 am
#80
It's quite funny the way everyone is jabbering on about grouping being good or bad when not a single one of you has stated the obvious! If you think "forced grouping" is in the game to add to your enjoyment you are as naive as they come. The whole grouping thing has been implemented as a time sink, pure and simple. So if you're enjoying your time sink, carry on...if not, vote with your feet, there are other MMO's out there or around the corner 
And for the record, the "multiplayer" in "MMO" is being misused to fit the agenda of the fanbois who aren't quite sure what's going on but feel they have to post their yabbering cr@p anyway. "Multiplayer" means a lot of people are playing it at the same time in the same game universe, it DOES NOT mean they're all playing TOGETHER ffs!
And for the record, the "multiplayer" in "MMO" is being misused to fit the agenda of the fanbois who aren't quite sure what's going on but feel they have to post their yabbering cr@p anyway. "Multiplayer" means a lot of people are playing it at the same time in the same game universe, it DOES NOT mean they're all playing TOGETHER ffs!
Message Edited by UKMars on 11-04-2004 07:06 AM
Amuro0079
Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:46 am
#81
Is there another MMORPG game that has a space sim component? If so, please tell me what it is and how to get it.
UKMars wrote:
So if you're enjoying your time sink, carry on...if not, vote with your feet, there are other MMO's out there or around the corner
Message Edited by UKMars on 11-04-2004 07:06 AM
Skellum_Dementia
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:00 am
#82
Broog wrote:
Bob, you're right. Sadly many of the people on these boards aren't very intelligent, and they will all try to take you down.
Also note that all the people that are screaming that you should deal with it or shut up didn't even bother to read past the first few posts. There are large and valid flaws with the forced grouping within JTL. These issues need to be dealt with before forced grouping is anywhere close to a positive aspect of JTL.
JimmyJB31
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:48 am
#83
Hi Raverbane i did that mission in beta and i feel your pain,i would suggest to get your friends again and try 1 more time,the way to do it is after ya pick up that decoy try to get to the next ship and dock and pray that your friends are good enough to keep the enemy off ya,while i was in beta i got kiled and sent to the station while the people were still helping me but the mission didnt end casue as soon as i spawned near the station the enemy spawned near the station also,the local station guards did help keep them off me and i was able to get to the ship i needed to drop off the decoy. i was so happy that mission was over with same with the other people that were helping me too,they couldnt believe how hard it was,i had like 4 peeps helping.
I have to agree that mission is just too much.Looks like it was never changed,to me it seems that all the beta testing we did went ignored casue ive been hearing alot of the stuff that was in beta is still happening in Live.
Manics
Thu Nov 04, 2004 1:52 am
#84
False420 wrote:
Bob take heart and remember that most of the people here are pretty close minded flamtards.
You're telling this to a guy who called everyone nazi's? rofl.. that's absurd.
HeyHolo
Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:05 am
#85
Bob_the_tomato wrote:
Yeah, the guy above me needs to shut up
I'm 4444 Privateer, and from 3322 on, I had to group to do all my missions. No amount of strategy will allow you to solo your way to Master Pilot. You will not blow up that corvette alone.
Many missions will even tell you to assemble a flight group. It's nonsense. I understand that this is an MMO, but forced grouping for *advancement* is bad design any way you slice it.
Actally if you're an Imperial, and smart, the corvette can be solo'd, Imps get bomber strikes, if you use that, and your other special commands wisely, you can solo the corvette. Rebels and privateers don't have that bomber support though so they don't really have a chance of soloing it. Though I guess technically it's not solo since you call in help, but it's NPC help, so you're still alone in a way.
Ashn
Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:03 am
#86
Or... the devs -never- intended us to be able to solo all the way to any mastery, so this is just the first step and the groundgame will do the samein the combat overhaul..expansion...thingie...whatnot.
I for one like the tier system and imo they shoudl throw that into the groudn game, eliminating stackers/fotm temps in one gloriousswing 
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Gawzeera
Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:51 am
#87
another reason why the space missions cant be done solo and the ground missions can is bercause of buffs.
I'd like to see anybody master a ground combat prof without uber armor and buffs.
buffs dont work in space.
Stranglet
Thu Nov 04, 2004 4:09 am
#88
Bob_the_tomato wrote:
Now some of my friends are trying to do it, but we don't have a big group online anymore and now there are griefers in Kessel trying to stop people from doing their missions. It wouldn't be so bad if you didn't die in one shot in this game.
exactly! i said that before and some people responded saying they do fine. BS! the only difference i could think of is i'm privateer and the people saying they didn't have this problem were rebel. i have top quality equipment and i am 4 4 4 4. the other day iwas testing mylevel 8, 2.4k shields inpvp with a friend who is 2 3 2 2, and i died in 1 or 2 hits max. i have also died many times in kessel before i could even fully accelerate after loading. pvp needs to be changed to allow for tactics and an actual battle!it shouldn't be: finish loading, press key for full throttle, *BOOM*, DEAD, release key for full throttle, /funTripToSationAndBack
ALSO
-- Don't mind grouping for missions (although it can be a pain to find people at times)
-- Have been able to solo 93.92% of the missions up to where i am now
-- Missions can be a little long =( and i was pretty pissed on onemission that i spent 40 min on only to die
-- FIX PVP!
sir_blinksalot
Thu Nov 04, 2004 9:50 pm
#90
I don't agree fully, so far I am Rebel pilot 3-4-3-3 and I have solo'd everything....you just need to come by the right parts and ship and hopefully have some cash to spare and keep trucking on. But more than half the tree is soloable and that's enough to ask.
Amuro0079
Thu Nov 04, 2004 10:01 pm
#91
If they really want people to group in advancement missions to help each other out, make it worklike this: say if I'm tier 3 and helped someoneaccomplish a tier 4 mission successfully, and when I reach tier 4,I shouldn't be required to do the same mission again; it should be already done for me.
BTW, what do you think people think about providingNPC wingmatestothose who can't find anyone to group with or just simply want to solo the higher tier missions?