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bejeavis
Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:21 pm
#66


the only support (yoda)for claiming there should be no jedi in this time period was destroyed. see my post above.

Message Edited by bejeavis on 10-25-2004 02:22 AM

Bhasayate
Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:28 pm
#67









bejeavis wrote:

your only support (yoda)for claiming there should be no jedi in this time period was destroyed. see my post above.






I agree with your principle "just because you don't see it doesn't prove it's somewhere you didn't look." In fact, many of us appeal to that principle when we say that it makes sense to have certain profs in the game we don't see in the movies, such as Chef or Weaponsmith or Swordsman, etc.


But applying that principle here is just wrongheaded. See,it's a basic part of the story that George Lucas created that Jedi were all but extinct during this time period. See, it's not that we look in the story and look for evidence of that'view.' It's part of the fundementalcore of hte story itself thatLuke and Yoda were the only Jedi during this time period. If you honestly question that fundemental story line, I don't know what else I can say.


A fundemental story line isn't borked when the devs introduced Weaponsmith and Armorsmith. /cheer devs


My point is that it makes much less sense to allow Jedi than any of the other contested profs. ANd it's ridiculous to htink otherwise.


Message Edited by Bhasayate on 10-25-2004 12:51 AM



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JediMobius
Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:43 pm
#68






Slarus wrote:

Jedi DO NOT FIT IN THE TIME PERIOD
People just dont seem to get that.
fair point about the game bit though...


Yeah neither do:


Rangers, Creature Handlers, Bio-Enigineers, Image Designers, Fencers, Swordsman, Pikemen, but you forgot to mention them.


Actually non of those even exsist they were created for this game alone, Jedi do exsist but from the point of view of the main Star Wars characters they are all but extinct. Then again none of them were omnipotent and since this is BASED on Star Wars and the expanded universe where there is more force sensitives it is reasonable to assume there are a few scattered remains of the once powerful order, poorly trained and untrained force adepts. The term Jedi is misrepresented. These are Jedi trained force users not Jedi in the game. A real Jedi knight wouldn't be bothered by a simple bounty hunter..


This has been gone over time and again and the "Jedi dont exsist" thoery doesn't work. This game doesn't, nor did it ever have to strictly adhere to timeline, an MMORPG based on a movie will HAVE to go outside the bounds of that movie to make a viable game. Jedi have more right to be in this game then any of those professions, as Jedi did and do exsist in the movies, none of those professions were mentioned in any movie, zero.


The thoery doesn't work, Jedi can exsist, and since Lucas Arts approved of the implementation of Jedi they clearly agree they should exsist.






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Slarus
Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:47 pm
#69

And I dont think we shall see many jedi in space anyway, you have to have skill points to train up pilot. And im not sure but jedi dont really have many skill points.


Piloting doesn't take from your pool of skill points, Anyone and everyone can take piloting and master it, all you need is JTL.
FSCSexplorer
Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:19 pm
#70






Palad wrote:

And as we tell you when you open your mouth to prove your an idiot


Should have kept us guessing...






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bejeavis
Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:49 pm
#71






Palad wrote:




...now as others have said, here are the facts.


1. Yoda said that luke was the last jedi, in another scene he said there was another, he was talking about a hope to save the universe for the rebellion, not another jedi. And was refering to leia, even darth vader figured it out. When luke and darth were talking, luke refused to join him, then darth vader said "Well if you wont join me, then perhaps, your sister" and luke went "leia, NO!" Yoda doesnt say crap about another jedi, he was refering to a savior for the rebellion. I dont remember leia weilding a lightsaber nor having any force powers the entire film. Perhaps she was force sensitive yes, but a jedi she was not.


2. In return of the jedi, the first scene alone showed more gammorian swordsman with axes, fencers, pikemen, and entertainers then jedi in all three films. This should be proof enough that yoda wasnt lying about the jedi, they arnt there! After yoda dies, 2 jedi exist in the universe, darth vader, and luke.


That is the evidence, and the facts. Jedi dont belong in the universe, but I fully expect you to deny everything. You are good at that, maybe you should be a politician.






hey. you seem to bank your jedi arguement solely on yodas line in ROTJ- yoda's credibility got owned by my post above.


besides, your 2 points contradict eachother.


my post aboveis still awiting arefute.


Palad
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:01 pm
#72

No, luke is the last light jedi, darth vader the last sith. Why dont you go back and watch the films, then maybe you will grow a foot to stand on in this discussion.



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KzinKiller
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:03 pm
#73

Um ... can Jedi get any form of xp for progression while they're in space?

As long as they CAN'T, then I see no problem with them hiding out there .... they gotta come down and grind sometime, and that's when you kill them.




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Slarus
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:06 pm
#74


No, luke is the last light jedi, darth vader the last sith. Why dont you go back and watch the films, then maybe you will grow a foot to stand on in this discussion.


Only if you believe in a GALXAY of TRILLIONS that not a single person could be force sensitive.


Two, you believe Yoda was absolutley omnipotent.


Both are completely impossible. For the sake of finality of the movie it was written in the point of view of the manin characters and they THOUGHT that they were the last.
Montya_Quatun
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:09 pm
#75






For the sake of finality of the movie it was written in the point of view of the manin characters and they THOUGHT that they were the last.





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Palad
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:31 pm
#76






Slarus wrote:


No, luke is the last light jedi, darth vader the last sith. Why dont you go back and watch the films, then maybe you will grow a foot to stand on in this discussion.


Only if you believe in a GALXAY of TRILLIONS that not a single person could be force sensitive.


Two, you believe Yoda was absolutley omnipotent.


Both are completely impossible. For the sake of finality of the movie it was written in the point of view of the manin characters and they THOUGHT that they were the last.






When you can sense things that happen billions of light years away, classified as the greatest jedi to walk the universe, and the person who could tell anekin skywalker was going to be Darth Vader, im pritty sure he could sense if there was any more jedi besides luke. And no, I didnt say he was the only force sensitive, I said he was the only JEDI. Big difference. Amazing you can believe obi wan could detect alderaan getting blown up, darth vader could tell if luke was in space, and luke could fire a missle down a small port to blow up a death star, yet you doubt the second most powerful jedi to exist could tell if other jedi are around.


You, my friend. Clame that we are speculating that these professions such as swordsman and pikeman exist because YOU didnt see them referenced in the movie. But we saw them function, the pikeman attacked with a pike, the gammorans swung an axe at han. NO REFERENCE TO JEDI EXISTING OUTSIDE OF LUKE SKYWALKER,YODA, OBI WAN, ANDDARTH VADEREVER APPEARS IN THE MOVIES. Yet you speculate more exist, pot calling the kettle black, no?


Still waiting for you to grow that foot to stand on in this conversation.




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bejeavis
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:41 pm
#77

yoda doesnt know jack about detecting jedis.

when he was hanging around with palpatine throughout ep 1&2 hewasnot able to detect that palpatine was not only attuned to the force, but a sith lord. he even admittedto master windu that his along with the rest of thejedi council's ability to sense stuff through the force has diminished.
bejeavis
Mon Oct 25, 2004 4:44 pm
#78






Slarus wrote:


No, luke is the last light jedi, darth vader the last sith. Why dont you go back and watch the films, then maybe you will grow a foot to stand on in this discussion.


Only if you believe in a GALXAY of TRILLIONS that not a single person could be force sensitive.


Two, you believe Yoda was absolutley omnipotent.


Both are completely impossible. For the sake of finality of the movie it was written in the point of view of the manin characters and they THOUGHT that they were the last.




bomb diggity. thats what im trying to say.

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