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Dominicus_Saxon wrote:
Somehow, it didn't surprise me that when faced with an opposing opinion, you immediately responded with a personal attack, calling me "clueless". I know exactly what I'm talking about and it's impolite of you to assume otherwise. I prefer using hides because I'm working up through Master Fencer so I already have about 70k in hides and will probably have over 200k in hides by the time I'm done. Since I'm killing the critters for xps anyway, the hides are free. Why should I payto buyreinforced fibro plast panels from someone, or invest power and money in my harvs to minethe needed resourcesand then more money and power in factory costs to produce them ? Hmm....hides - free, RFP panels - not free. Gee...I wonder which is more cost-effective...? You stated that ecominically and realisticly it makes more sense, but that is only from yourbiased point of view. So, no, I did not miss the point, it seems as though you did miss mine.
I called you clueless because you either missed the point or deliberately ignored mine...just like you did in my last post (As I did specifically state that you could go out and hunt them all by your lonesome or with a group. So I can assume you're either clueless again or being intentionally thick. If you have 70k hides right now great! Most crafters don't. How much time have you invested in gathering these hides...I gaurentee I can produce RFP's at a vastly accellerated rate? At the moment, you ack the hides for 1 full run of a schematic, much less the two runs that you get with each. By being able to produce RFP's with little to no wait time, paintings can be produced faser.
I'll give you this, my point of view for producing is biased, but you seem to fail to realize that so is your own. Had you simply responded with an opposing opinion that wasn't snide AND MISSED THE POINT COMPLETELY. (Mentioning that the difference between fiberplast and hide merely as a difference in 1's and 0's was not relevant in the least to my point hence, you are clueless.) A simple response of
"I prefer using hides because I'm working up through Master Fencer so I already have about 70k in hides and will probably have over 200k in hides by the time I'm done."
As was done in your done in your second post would have been more relevant to the discussion, My response would have been much the same, with the clueless remark replaced by something more along the lines of. the time and effort needed to collect hide rather than the reletive ease efficiency of producing RFPs for the same task.
It seems that you can easily pick out other peoples biases and such, but have no clue (Clueless again) as to your own rather obvious shortcomings.
BioDroid wrote:
....It seems that you can easily pick out other peoples biases and such, but have no clue (Clueless again) as to your own rather obvious shortcomings.
These are direct personal attacks and therefore flaming.
Please stop the flaming. Its not necessary and it is NOT welcome in this forum.
Fneegan wrote:
Don't the paintings take any type of hide ? I also don't agree that crap hide goes/sells for 10cpu either.
You're not saying fiberplast panel (as this keeps it in Artisan), you're saying "Reinforced Fiber panel"which would take it both away from the Artisan and Architect and create a dependancy on the Tailor Profession having Field Wear II: Reinforced Fibers.
I'd rather not, thank you.
1. Yes, they take any type of hide, but it all must be the same type.
2. What have you normally paid for crap hide?
3. Actually I was using reinforced fiberpanels a spurely a worse case scenario. If we reduce it to fibepanels and keep it in artisan, then the pice drops even less. 10 machine harvestable resources as opposed to 30, with the added benefit of the Architecht most likely being able to produece this her/himself. Either way it still doesn't take away from my point that painting on cloth is something that our own civilization has done for centuries.
Pawlin wrote:
BioDroid wrote:
....It seems that you can easily pick out other peoples biases and such, but have no clue (Clueless again) as to your own rather obvious shortcomings.
These are direct personal attacks and therefore flaming.
Please stop the flaming. Its not necessary and it is NOT welcome in this forum.
We can have disagreements / heated debates on issues in the game, but resorting to personal attacks is not called for.
If you feel you need to do this then stop, leave the forum and go take a break and cool down before posting.
While I don't agree with you that the term "clueless" is a personal attack and flaming, I will appologize to everyone, especially Dominicus. I truly did not mean for you to feel "personally attacked." (I will readily admit that I am clueless about a great many things, and you may say so without fear of reprisal.) Clueless is synonymous with ignorant, and anyone who claims to be all knowing is fooling themselves.
That said, it still does not take away from my original point.