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Juusman
Fri Nov 26, 2004 11:32 pm
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Ghotodesman
Sun Nov 28, 2004 9:50 pm
#54

Ok i have studied alot of fighters and the only one taht is better then it is the SU-35 Flanker. The MiG-29 is just just under the F-15E



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Amuro0079
Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:00 pm
#55


If you guys want to talk about fighter planes, go to thegeneral discussionforum and start a thread there.

Message Edited by Amuro0079 on 11-29-2004 01:00 PM



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Tufelhound
Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:03 pm
#56

ya and when u do make a clicky to it...i find it interesting



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Sengis
Mon Nov 29, 2004 6:17 am
#57






Haywood wrote:





Ghotodesman wrote:





PhoenixAndy wrote:





Ghotodesman wrote:






BillyBobthe50th wrote:

Russia USED to do that, now, Russia makes several fighters that are in fact SUPERIOR to the F-22, did you also know that Russia has the most advanced ejection seat technology IN THE WORLD?






actually it is not true that the russians have better planes. The F-15 is the best out there and it's ours. The F-15 has never...never been shot down meaning it is the safest plane to be in, in combat.





You're trying to tell me that not 1 F-15 has ever been shot down? I find that incredibly hard to believe given how long they've been in operation. Of course, show me some statistics on this, and I might be inclined to believe you.

From: here

Listed as MIA on Jan. 18. Changed to KIA on March 22. Shot down in an F-15 over Iraq.


That doesn't look like never shot down to me.






Edited becuase of my mistakes:


The F-15 has never...never been shot down in air to air combat meaning it is the safest plane to be in, in combat.







Again I find myself asking where your proof of this is? Has the USAF released statistics about where & when all of their planes have been lost since the F-15 entered service? Also, given that Iraq's Anti-Aircraft capability was minimal at best, I expect that shot down F-15 was hit by an enemy aircraft. Again, disprove me if you can.

I'm waiting...

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As a former Navy F-14 Tomcat Rio here are some nice facts:


There have been two F-14 Tomcats lost in combat since 1972 one was by a surfaceto air missle in 1991 Gulf War The other had an Engine Malfunction followed by a fuel migration problem that caused the crew to eject. Does that mean that since it has not been lost by an Air to Air Engagement in Combat that it is the safest plane?






Lol not with its 18 minutes flight to 1 hour repair statistic i once read.


always been a fan of the Mig29 and the SU27- Is the Mig 31 not meant ot be the equivalent of an f-15.. anyway.. the 29 and su27 being far moe advanced/manouverable. (slightly higher mass but then teir pilots are a bit more aware on configging loadouts)





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