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Oxuss wrote:
Ofcourse i dont you fool , but Jango was able to chase obiwan thru space wasnt he ? i simply want a system to prevent jedi using space as a safty area when ever they want to get away from a BH
You Bounty hunters make me lol some times.
Obi wan was following jango = players should be able to tag other player ships so they can go after them and kill them. So you see how this can be a bad thing.
Rikkialamay wrote:
Slarus wrote:
Creature handlers did exist in the time period as they are mentioned in a book, Tales From The Cantina i think it was called.
I doubt it, and you still havent explained the other classes I mentioned, but I'll give you that one now prove these:
Rangers, Bio-Enigineers, Image Designers, Fencers, Swordsman, Pikemen
This is super dumb.
First of all, there is a differnce between clearly contradicting what we KNOW , say, allowing thousands of Jedi run around when we KNOW that only Luke and Yoda are alive during this time, and REASONING OUT professions that aren't clearly stated but are at least consistent with what we know.
Point by Point Application:
Pikeman: What? What were those guys on Jabba's skiff, and Lando, holding in their hands? They were PIKES of various kinds. Just like Jabba had a creature handler, he had all sorts of Pikemen.
Same goes for Swordsmen and Fencers. Swords existed. People in parts of the galaxy would have used them. I don't think they'd be as prevelent as they are in 'the real star wars universe', nor would the be as powerful (that's another rant) but there is nothing INCONSISTENT with what we know about them that would give us a reason to think they don't exist. Or you really willing to say that simply because the movies don't SHOW people with swords that there aren't any? SURELY there are planets whose technological development is not as advanced, who would use swords, etc. You'd be daft to think otherwise. Hence, there is nothing 'stoopid' about allowing them to be professions
Bio-Enigineers. Well, the technological levels in Star Wars are such that this isn't far fecthed at all. Even on Earth we are learning how to clone animals, and to enhance fruits and vegetables. we've even learned to make NEW fruits, like cross oranges and tangerines, and in Japan they even learned how to make square watermelons (don't believe me? look it up.)
It's not like Vader killed all the smart scientist types who know alot about genetics and cloning and stuff.
Rangers: Wow. Well, heck. Thisis dumb, too.Heck, we have a pretty good grasp of how to hunt animals and craft on Earth. I mean, I could go camping if I wanted to, and I know people who do it. I also know people who hunt and stuff.
To think that people in the Star Wars galaxy DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS STUFF is dumb. Or, perhaps, and I didn't know it, Palpatine had Darth Vader kill eveyrone that knew how to hunt and track animals, or in some way made it impossible for people to camp in the wilderness, to use traps on animals, and the like.
Image Designers It probably would be possible to make DRASTIC changes to your appearence in Star Wars, but it would be MAD expensive, and we'd not be able to, say, grow 4 feet or whatever. So some of this stuff is a bit far fecthed, I admit.
But getting a haircut or a tan or dying your hair would be EASY. ANd it probably wouldn't be all that hard to reduce fat or gain muscle mass in some easy way.
Or are you gonna say that Darth Vader and the Emporer, like, oh, killed all the people able to give haircuts? Perhaps Vader got really mad and had the Empire shut down all the fitness centers so people wouldn't be able to work out and loose weight and gain muscle mass?
THE MAIN POINT HERE:
There is a difference between CONTRADICTING what we know and CREATIVELY INTRODUCING PROFESSIONS. Jedi contradict what we know, having Rangers, Bio-Enigineers, Image Designers, Fencers, Swordsman, and Pikemen in the game does not.
Message Edited by Bhasayate on 10-24-2004 10:22 PM
This is super dumb.
First of all, there is a differnce between clearly contradicting what we KNOW , say, allowing thousands of Jedi run around when we KNOW that only Luke and Yoda are alive during this time, and REASONING OUT professions that aren't clearly stated but are at least consistent with what we know.
Point by Point Application:
Pikeman: What? What were those guys on Jabba's skiff, and Lando, holding in their hands? They were PIKES of various kinds. Just like Jabba had a creature handler, he had all sorts of Pikemen.
Same goes for Swordsmen and Fencers. Swords existed. People in parts of the galaxy would have used them. I don't think they'd be as prevelent as they are in 'the real star wars universe', nor would the be as powerful (that's another rant) but there is nothing INCONSISTENT with what we know about them that would give us a reason to think they don't exist. Or you really willing to say that simply because the movies don't SHOW people with swords that there aren't any? SURELY there are planets whose technological development is not as advanced, who would use swords, etc. You'd be daft to think otherwise. Hence, there is nothing 'stoopid' about allowing them to be professions
Bio-Enigineers. Well, the technological levels in Star Wars are such that this isn't far fecthed at all. Even on Earth we are learning how to clone animals, and to enhance fruits and vegetables. we've even learned to make NEW fruits, like cross oranges and tangerines, and in Japan they even learned how to make square watermelons (don't believe me? look it up.)
It's not like Vader killed all the smart scientist types who know alot about genetics and cloning and stuff.
Rangers: Wow. Well, heck. Thisis dumb, too.Heck, we have a pretty good grasp of how to hunt animals and craft on Earth. I mean, I could go camping if I wanted to, and I know people who do it. I also know people who hunt and stuff.
To think that people in the Star Wars galaxy DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THIS STUFF is dumb. Or, perhaps, and I didn't know it, Palpatine had Darth Vader kill eveyrone that knew how to hunt and track animals, or in some way made it impossible for people to camp in the wilderness, to use traps on animals, and the like.
Image Designers It probably would be possible to make DRASTIC changes to your appearence in Star Wars, but it would be MAD expensive, and we'd not be able to, say, grow 4 feet or whatever. So some of this stuff is a bit far fecthed, I admit.
But getting a haircut or a tan or dying your hair would be EASY. ANd it probably wouldn't be all that hard to reduce fat or gain muscle mass in some easy way.
Or are you gonna say that Darth Vader and the Emporer, like, oh, killed all the people able to give haircuts? Perhaps Vader got really mad and had the Empire shut down all the fitness centers so people wouldn't be able to work out and loose weight and gain muscle mass?
THE MAIN POINT HERE:
There is a difference between CONTRADICTING what we know and CREATIVELY INTRODUCING PROFESSIONS. Jedi contradict what we know, having Rangers, Bio-Enigineers, Image Designers, Fencers, Swordsman, and Pikemen in the game does not.
Slarus wrote:
Creatively introducing is still fabrication, and there are not thousands of Jedi, you don't know it, dont lie and make up numbers. Jedi are in Movie credits, they are in the movies clearly, not one of those professions are, all you can do is make arguments to support some extra in a movie as being a Pikeman, Ranger, etc.
And still you dont understand what BASED ON means. Not one person, not one peice of advertising or marketing on this game aludes to or states in fact that Timeline is strictly followed in any way other then the game is BASED ON the time between ANH and ESB, period. There is no justification in not having THE SINGLE MOST POPULAR character type in Star Wars in an MMORPG based on Star Wars, your srgument is petty, angry and not supported by any facts.
/duck
there were more gammoreans carrying axes down the halls of jabbas palace and weequay toting vibrolances in the opening scene of rotj than there were jedi in the whole trilogy. nuff said. what was leia carrying when she brought chewy into the palace? hmm if im not mistaken thats some sort of lance or polearm weapon....oh oh, the red guard! the elite guards for palpy in rotj, ya those are sticks of somekind too. for the sake of common sense, creativity and your ability (or lack there of) to immerse your self in the story (which im assuming you have since youre so passionate about jedi) i think its safe to say these people were fairly proficient in their chosen weapons.
an image designer? cmon gimme a break. who the heck do you think deals with leias elaborate braids? lmao. an id is a glorified hairdresser/makeup artist with some exagerated abilities for the sake of video gaming.
bio engineer? lets not forget this timeline is long after the clone wars . its been shown to us in the prequel movies this technology exists. creating life from dna samples. jango fett dna---->clones. fambaa dna ----->pet fambaa
ranger? omg im not even gonna bother with this one.....
everything weve seen in the movies (not even relying on common sense, these are facts put in front of you in the movies) support all of these roles. no matter how insignificant they may seem to your beloved jedi. they do exist and are far more beleivable in this current timeline.
all you can do is make arguments to support that there were any other jedi/force wielders in this timeline. according to the movies, which you seem to adhere to so closely for your 'facts', there werent any others.
Then again none of them were omnipotent and since this is BASED on Star Wars and the expanded universe where there is more force sensitives it is reasonable to assume there are a few scattered remains of the once powerful order, poorly trained and untrained force adepts. youre calling people on speculating based on what theyve seen in the movies yet youre going to 'assume' all of this based on what you havnt seen? so youre allowed to 'assume' and extrapulate to support your jediclaims, but no one else is allowed to? at least those of us that are assuming are basing the assumptions on facts and things shown to us in the movies. ypu contradict yourself at every turn...
Message Edited by 0devius0 on 10-25-2004 07:28 AM