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Thread: OK How Big is Space?
Snowbacca
Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:56 pm
#41
you are my hero!
JFreeman wrote:
Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the drug store, but that's just peanuts to space. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
aachil
Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:08 am
#42
On Topic I have not had any issue with 'hitting the wall', the physics follows the genre rather than any semblance of real physics but the illusion created is that you are in space, you can break the illusion if you want (get to a corner and note that your loc does not change or just look at the keyboard - your not realy in space).
I supose an alternative model would be to have you launch into space and simply show a black screen with an arrow marked 'you are here' pointing at nothing discernable.
The quote is spot on acording to 'the quotations page' which I presume used the American version. From the BBC's Douglas Addams obituary: "Space is big - really big - you just won't believe how vastly, hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space". There are many versions, even in English
I supose an alternative model would be to have you launch into space and simply show a black screen with an arrow marked 'you are here' pointing at nothing discernable.
The quote is spot on acording to 'the quotations page' which I presume used the American version. From the BBC's Douglas Addams obituary: "Space is big - really big - you just won't believe how vastly, hugely mind-bogglingly big it is. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space". There are many versions, even in English
Dwiggz
Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:18 am
#43
RozhlokLightningskull wrote:
Sggirbs wrote:
Thanks, i panic when i read certian threads in this forum.
Sounds like its going to be alot of fun.
Keep in mind the people who made those posts about space being too small have never even been in space before and are just wildly speculating.
Hmm... i'm a tester and it's not that big...
Dwiggz
Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:21 am
#44
I'm a tester and i don't buy that... sorry.
Even if it was SO big... there's nothing to do anyways.
tIme2DiE
Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:15 am
#45
Mandril wrote:
Zaket wrote:
Mandril wrote:
13,856 meters on a side X 3 sides (X-Y-Z axes),~= 2.66 trillion cubic meters or ~=2.66 billion cubic kilometers.
Hmmm - I thought each axis went from -8000m to +8000m. That makes each axis 16k. Total volume of a zone would then be 16x16x16 or 4096 cubic kilometers.
One waypointtick is not equal to one in-game meter. In any space zone, go to waypoint 8000, 8000, 8000 and stop. From there, set a waypoint for 8000, 8000, -8000. The distance you get back is 13,856 in-game meters. You can go to any vertex (8 total) and shoot a waypoint to any other adjacent vertex and you'll get 13,856 in-game meters every time. So the volume is X*Y*Z where X, Y, and Z are equal to 13,856. That's 2,660,195,926,016 cubic in-game meters or ~= 2.66*10^12.
I might be wrong in the way I'm figuring cubic kilometers, though. If we take 13,856 meters, that's 13.856 kilometers. Cubing 13.856 yields 2,660.195926016 cubic kilometers. If I subtract 3 off the exponent 2.66*10^12 above to get cubic km I get 2.66*10^9...and now that I think about it I see my error there - I have to subtract 9 off the exponent (3 for each axis) and that gets me back to 2,660.195926016 cubic kilometers (13.856 km^3). Jinkies! No wonder I had to bail out of of Calculus II twice before I got through it!
Either that or the size of the space zones is actually zero, and we imagine it has volume through shared hallucination or sheer force of will..."Do you think that's air you're breathing right now?"
Or if you're a fan of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the answerto everything is42.
In any event, it takes me quite a few minutes to go straight from one vertex to another in an A-Wing clocking at 912. There's plenty of room for all kinds of stuff in each space zone.
PS: So for any given axis there are 16,000 possible wp's (+8000 -> -8000). So each wp resolves to 13,856/16,000 = 0.866 in-game meters....unless it's Thursday...and raining...then the answer might be different.
huh? If you make a waypoint at 8000 8000 -8000 and you are at 8000 8000 8000 then there should be 16000 distance. Where did you get the figure 13856?
Also, you won't always be flying exactly parralell with one axis. You'll be going diagonally. If are at 8000 8000 8000you can go23999 before hitting -8000 -8000 -8000.
lakeo
Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:00 pm
#46
muhaha the power of the empire the drive of the rebellion and the destructive force of...........math....?
Polarbear868
Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:28 pm
#47
Cobra2468 wrote:i say its to small, and the reason it seems big is because the ships are slow enough to accomodate it, which simply gives the illusion of it being big, its not. in RL a fighter could fly the distance in 2min or less, in space ide expect seconds. sure its a game but i wanna go fast man lol
So, according to you, adding a few zeros to the end of the distance and the speed (which would not affect anything at all) would make it acceptable?
Saabotage
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:38 am
#49
42 huh.....
Thats not a bad awnser... Im gonna steal it from you next time!
...........Sorry to take that awnser, but as I said. It's a good awnser to lifes little math questions.
SeroSabot
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:42 pm
#50
How close canyou get to planets? Can you get behind them or pretty close to them? Or is it like other Star Wars game were you can only see it but not get close to it.
Balzan
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:51 pm
#51
JFreeman wrote:Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the drug store, but that's just peanuts to space. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
Hooorah for JFreeman, I vote him for best quote ever used on these boards
Balzan
Sun Oct 24, 2004 11:54 pm
#52
Chrisalddin wrote:
JFreeman wrote:Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the drug store, but that's just peanuts to space. - Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the GalaxyDam you Bet me to it,you miss out a word here or there and it chemist, not "drug store"should readSpace is big. Reley BIG. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space.- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
IF you want to be pedantic in the radio series it was the milk bar!