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themorph wrote:

JOIN THE REBELLION .. we are the better and nicer guys

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Palad wrote:

After trying for over 7 hours to do one, single, solitary G-D D-MN mission, I still havent completed it. Eather a bug causes me to crash, I have to battle 20 Nyms ships and hutt ships that have nothing to do with the mission plus the 10 mission ships resulting in my death, or getting all the way to the last mission step one and two happen, I tried to get a group. I sat for 2 hours, shouting "Paying people to help me complete my mission!" And having NOT A SINGLE G-D D-MN player even consider it. What are you thinking trying to force both PVP and grouping?! Do you not realize that everyone isnt in a guild, or not everyone has hordes of friends to help them at every single turn? Also sony, you greatly overestimate the quality of your gaming comunity. And if anyone says it takes "sKiLz" to do these missions it doesnt, ti takes luck, and tons of buddys. Neather of which I appear to have. I guess the cuasual gamer should move to EverQuest 2 or something, since this is a slap in the face to me for having to stick threw a year of broken boring game to get JTLS. Now that its here I wanna trade it in for a broken foot, atleast I know the foot will get better over time.

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Raphek wrote:

Juusman:

I think you are takingPalad's words and makinghim out to be far worse in your mind that he really is. One's own terms could be simply to kick back and relax and chat it up with people in a cantina - or whatever. There is more than one way to socialize in this game - and people should NOT be forced to do missionsin groups. Thegame is supposed to simulate anotheruniverse.That meansthereare people who group, andthen there are lone wolves.Just like in real life man. Being able to do missions solo with extreme challenges is one thing.Being prevented from accomplishing any goals at all because of poor game design and bugs is something totally different.

He did even say he has made attempts to work with others only to get rebuked in the end. Don't be so quick to insult someone who is having difficulties - keep in mind he is most likely extremely frustrated.

Remember - MMORPGs should have the ultimate in flexibility for players. Just as Palad suggested - Missions for solo, missions for groups. Its not really asking a lot. Being online with others doesn't mean they have to FIGHT with others.

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I don't have a problem with people being lone wolves. What I have a problem with is people who complain incessantly about being gated because they can't do a mission without the help of others, or because other players are interfering with their solo play style. There are plenty of opportunities to play this game solo.. but no where did SOE say that you can do everything in this game solo, or that you have a right to all the content by playing solo.

In reference to Palad in particular, he whines on the boards saying that he can't get help from other players, and that the people that do help him are all backstabbing jerks. From other posts he has made throughout these forums he has come off sounding like a whiny kid crying to mommy because the other kids don't wantto play with him.

All I'm saying is that you get out of this game what you put into it. Don't expect people to help you in this gameif it's obvious that you are just using them as a means to an end. Some people might, but most people will probably not undertake a risky venture with someone they don't evenknow. I just don't think people have a right to complain that they have no friends to help them, when it's obvious that they've never put any ral effort into making friends.

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Palad wrote:

After trying for over 7 hours to do one, single, solitary G-D D-MN mission, I still havent completed it. Eather a bug causes me to crash, I have to battle 20 Nyms ships and hutt ships that have nothing to do with the mission plus the 10 mission ships resulting in my death, or getting all the way to the last mission step one and two happen, I tried to get a group. I sat for 2 hours, shouting "Paying people to help me complete my mission!" And having NOT A SINGLE G-D D-MN player even consider it. What are you thinking trying to force both PVP and grouping?! Do you not realize that everyone isnt in a guild, or not everyone has hordes of friends to help them at every single turn? Also sony, you greatly overestimate the quality of your gaming comunity. And if anyone says it takes "sKiLz" to do these missions it doesnt, ti takes luck, and tons of buddys. Neather of which I appear to have. I guess the cuasual gamer should move to EverQuest 2 or something, since this is a slap in the face to me for having to stick threw a year of broken boring game to get JTLS. Now that its here I wanna trade it in for a broken foot, atleast I know the foot will get better over time.

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I'm mostly a solo player too, and can empathize to some extent, but using Everquest as a benchmark for the solo player sort of shoots your argument full of holes. Solo play in EQ is far more difficult than anything in SWG hands down. At a certain point in EQ you really need to group to advance in level, so I don't see why SWG is any worse in that respect. If anything, it's easier. Grouping for one mission, for one skill box, hardly seems worth throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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Palad wrote:

Waaaahhhh

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