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Thread: Interesting analogy regarding the Actis Interceptor

SkiingSullustan
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:21 pm
#27

Yeah, unfortunately your right.
3 months from now...

New Player: You're a what? A Car-ba-neer?... Whats Jedi tier is that in?

Me: ...

New Player: Whats that your holding? I've never seen one of those.

Me: It's a carbine...

New Player: Ohhhh, from the Clone relic quest! A DC-15!

Me: /tar self, /deathblow.
eurno_ebaebro__kyra
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:39 pm
#28

remind me, what does an actis look like?



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y--(Crimson Pheonix 4434)--y

pgm2b2
Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:27 am
#29

The thing that really get's me about the Actis and Bel-22 is they are tiny ships.


If you sit one up next to a regular ship you gotta really say to yourself how on earth can they be 90k mass.


Unless they are actually Tardis type vehicle from the Dr.Who series they should be about 15k mass just on the visual size alone.


I have flown both ships and they are a dream to fly but they really have to be nerfed at some point, the JSF quest is by far one of the easiest missions to do and is really a bit of a joke.





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JP79
Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:03 pm
#30

I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....
Slysix
Thu Aug 25, 2005 8:46 pm
#31



JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....



You can only improve ships abilites so much before you get start getting "unintended" results...*clicky the pen*
Consiquently the "unintended" has to be to balanced..egro another improvement has to be implemented thus further unbalancing he equation...hrm....*clicky the pen*
Concurrently...while raising the abilities of ships is one solution...mayhap lowering a ships abilities will further the cause of balancing the equation....*clicky the pen*
So a choice has to be made, do we really want the continuance of this race to hit the brick wall or do we seek an alternative...*clicky the pen*

JP79
Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:17 pm
#32

I agree to a point but would much rather see enhancement to decrease.
JanuHull
Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:49 am
#33






JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....





No, learn to fly instead of hiding in your poonfighter.



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DeepFatFryer
Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:13 am
#34



JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....





So lets have all interceptor craft have insanely high mass, so that the other fighters are made even more obselete?

Engage the brain before pressing the Submit Post button, for the love of...



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JanuHull
Fri Aug 26, 2005 1:27 pm
#35






JP79 wrote:





JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....





No, learn to fly instead of hiding in your poonfighter.

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Man I dont even own one Im a rebel but Im tired of every forum I read someone yelling to nerf something because it is too good. That just blows that instead of saying yeah its a great ship with super stats its " The thing is to good nerf it!!!!" Man that sucks nobody want anybody to enjoy anything if it doesnt fit into their way of thinking or plan for how it all should be. Look you all have your opinion and they were all vaid points. I just hate reading from most every forum that something needs to be nerfed somewhere instead of can you improve upon this...





I improved on my skills and enjoy watching JSF's go BOOM when I tag them in my A-Wing.



Janu Hull
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CFA

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Loki_Ashaman
Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:07 pm
#36






JP79 wrote:





JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....





No, learn to fly instead of hiding in your poonfighter.

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Man I dont even own one Im a rebel but Im tired of every forum I read someone yelling to nerf something because it is too good. That just blows that instead of saying yeah its a great ship with super stats its " The thing is to good nerf it!!!!" Man that sucks nobody want anybody to enjoy anything if it doesnt fit into their way of thinking or plan for how it all should be. Look you all have your opinion and they were all vaid points. I just hate reading from most every forum that something needs to be nerfed somewhere instead of can you improve upon this...




Power creep is what you are asking for.


The entire JtL game was designed with a balance between the ships in regards to speed, manuverability, and mass (payload). If we raise all the pre-RotW ships to the power level of the RotW ships, should we not also raise the mass of all components? This would either create a Space CU or lots of 'pre-nerf' components. If we do not raise the mass of all components, the entire balance of the game will be out of whack. If mass on older ships is increased the TIE Oppresser would easily be close to 250K mass, a Dunelizard 130K mass, Krayts and Firesprays at 320K;if manuverability is increased you will see Y-wings and TIE bombers spinning circles on a dime.


And then what happens when the next expansion comes out, and an even more unbalanced ship is created? Rebalance everything up to the new level again? The game was released balanced, new ships and components should be created within that balance with a small advantages for reward items based on the difficulty of achieving them.


Power creep is bad.




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SkiingSullustan
Fri Aug 26, 2005 11:17 pm
#37

Ask yourself, would you rather have the Devs working to 'balance' all of the JTL ships (as well as every component), or would it be just slightly more logical to balance the two ships that seemed to have created this whole mess....
JP79
Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:54 am
#38





JP79 wrote:
I understand all of your complaints but please stop asking for nerfs on something and instead ask for improvements of your own preferred ships....





No, learn to fly instead of hiding in your poonfighter.

__________________________________________________________________________________________________



Man I dont even own one Im a rebel but Im tired of every forum I read someone yelling to nerf something because it is too good. That just blows that instead of saying yeah its a great ship with super stats its " The thing is to good nerf it!!!!" Man that sucks nobody want anybody to enjoy anything if it doesnt fit into their way of thinking or plan for how it all should be. Look you all have your opinion and they were all vaid points. I just hate reading from most every forum that something needs to be nerfed somewhere instead of can you improve upon this...
Warmaker01
Sun Aug 28, 2005 2:44 pm
#39



SkiingSullustan wrote:
Ask yourself, would you rather have the Devs working to 'balance' all of the JTL ships (as well as every component), or would it be just slightly more logical to balance the two ships that seemed to have created this whole mess....





But, but... but... they're Prequel ships... they MUST be superior! Anakin and Obi-Wan flew them!1!!1

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