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Thread: [edited ] New Master Privateer ship Design [opinion]
MusicManZarick
Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:15 pm
#28
Iwami wrote:
KyrYxus wrote:The only thing I'm not sold on on this are those freaky blasters on the back of the wings.... they just look odd.
that is most likely a bug with the placement, same goes with the not being able to paint it. I hope it has some badass paint schemes for it.
I expect it will have the same paint schemes as the Kimo. Personally, I don't see why anyone was surprised at this.. let's look at the naming scheme and the ground game. The Kimogila's of Lok are basically smaller cousins to the Krayt Dragons of Tatooine anyway. They use the same skeleton, just slightly smaller. So why would you not expect a ship called a Krayt to be anything but a more powerful version of a Kimo? Add to that the Kimo is M-12L and the Krayt is M-22T.. may not make sense to a lot of people, but I know there are others out there who will notice the connection.
I personally liked my Kimo when I was using it. The only reason I upgraded to my Ixiyen is the mass is higher.. and it looks like a space hotrod.
I'll wait and see what happens, since this is still on Test which means it hasn't been written in stone yet.
Ducimus
Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:30 pm
#29
Looks aside...
I read this thing will have about 211K ish mass, 3 weapon hard points, 1 MP turret, and 1 missle.
Thats alot of firepower.
Next question.. how's it handle?
I read this thing will have about 211K ish mass, 3 weapon hard points, 1 MP turret, and 1 missle.
Thats alot of firepower.
Next question.. how's it handle?
Message Edited by Ducimus on 12-08-2004 03:58 PM
Vegitaa
Wed Dec 08, 2004 2:31 pm
#30
In before lock....
Besides the stereotypical flaming just a quick opinion.
1st. I'm amazed to see they got you guys a new ship, something was definately needed. Design-wise is another issue, just a quick point here. Functionally it seems on-par with the Imp/Rebel Master Tier ships. Oppresor, BWing, now this Barry Bonds version of the Kimo. Probably has comparable mass, ypr, etc.. so I'm happy the Dev;'s got something out there for nuetrals.
2nd. Lets talk differences a sec. Imp/Rebel well we don't get as many ship cert's... of course not though, we're supposed to conform to a military purpose model. Nuetrals, Hutt and Black Sun fighters. Now I prefer the look of the BS's. I agree the YT is no Decimator for sure. But, saying they should have given you guys the YT-2400 doesn't work because then you could have 2 POB ship types where everyone else gets 1. Personally I wouldn't have cared but you and I know there would have been forum nightmares.
So, here's my opinion/wishful thinking. Ok, they added a Hutt based master level ship with not much fanfare. Maybe, just maybe there is a Black Sun master class ship in the works. Lets not jump the gun yet, try to be optomistic. (insert your own smart @$$ remark here about Dev's/SOE.... Dev's blah blah.. SOE blah blah.. whatever...) Never hurts to try to be positive.
I believe the FireSpray should have remained Nuetral only but they jinked that up in my opinion. So.... would this make people happy???
Leave Imp and Rebel ships as is, someday add the Lambda shuttle and some other rebel POB ship equal to it.
For Nuetrals Go ahead and give them this new Hutt variant, additionally add a Black Sun Variant of equal or close to equal stats. When Imp's and Reb's get their new Lambda/POB give Nuetrals the YT-2400.
Wow, would you look at that.. I didn't even have to flame anybody to get my opinion across. (In other words, try to be nicer to each other, remember it's supposed to be us against them not us against us.)
WookieIsshe
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:01 pm
#31
Your right and I appologize. I should have been a bit more clear. Sorry to group everyone in the whiner catagory.. again my apologies.
truewildman wrote:
WookieIsshe wrote:
recycled wrote:
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=180582
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=180681
Your Kidding right?
So let me get this straight, instead of the Yt-2400 or something that looks completly different than a Kimogilla, we get this peice of bantha fodder?
I rather have the Yt-2400 than some stupid design for a ship like this. It doesnt even have to have massive [ mass], just Not the same damn designs!
Let me get this straight.. they give you whiners a master level ship and you do nothing but complain. It's damned if they do and damned if they don't with you people. GROW UP.
Ummm...one whiner doesn't equal "you people". Please rephrase that.
Sylia
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:08 pm
#32
You wanted a YT-2400 for your master fighter?
You wanted a black sun ship for your master fighter?
You had unreasonable expectations.
The Rebels get the B-wing, a heavy attack fighter/bomber
The Imperials get the Opressor, a heavy attack fighter/bomber
Now
The Nuetrals get the Krayte(?), what looks to be a heavy attack fighter/bomber
And your pissing about it?
Go grab a can ofnerfjuice and sit in the corner you ungrateful brats.
For God's sake the thing looks to mount 4 guns, and no doubt is going to have more mass to play with than either of the others.
Message Edited by Sylia on 12-08-2004 02:08 PM
DrakoonShao
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:16 pm
#33
While the Kimois my least favorite Privateer ship from a style point of view, I don't mind the Devs using it as the basis for our 2 person ship. Personal preference? Would have liked a turreted Rihkyrk, but at least this fills in what we were missing. As somone else pointed out, the Aggressor uses a modified Oppressor model and of course the Y-Wings are the same. Because of this it would be unreasonable to expect an entire new ship to be made for Privateers for this. I think the guns someone pointed out is a glitch that will probably be ironed out by the time it hits live. Just my thought though from looking over the design.
Ditolus
Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:18 pm
#34
i made another post about this on this same forum. I feel the ship looks terrible(barring any altertations made between test center to live). Some people are saying it is cool cuz it is in the same style as a hutt fighter. this really boggles my mind. It's a kimogila with a turret slapped on!!!!!! where is the the design innovation in that???
WarDarkFox1
Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:37 pm
#35
there is none, its just the kimo with added texture to it. And yeah the rebels have a b-wing and the imperial have the opressor but they aren't almost identical to any other ships in the fighters teirs. The kryte should be used as our 2nd person ship, that much i can agree with but not as a master fighter
Sylia
Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:44 pm
#36
WarDarkFox1 wrote:
there is none, its just the kimo with added texture to it. And yeah the rebels have a b-wing and the imperial have the opressor but they aren't almost identical to any other ships in the fighters teirs. The kryte should be used as our 2nd person ship, that much i can agree with but not as a master fighter
Oh so you want another 2 person ship, and a new master fighter?
Your pissing about your ships looking similar?
Don't expect one shred of sympathy from Imps or Rebels, you've allready got a far more diverse stable of ships.
JimerLins
Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:46 pm
#37
Ditolus wrote:
i made another post about this on this same forum. I feel the ship looks terrible(barring any altertations made between test center to live). Some people are saying it is cool cuz it is in the same style as a hutt fighter. this really boggles my mind. It's a kimogila with a turret slapped on!!!!!! where is the the design innovation in that???
The most innovative you can be is to create something that works better without having to reinvent it. In other words, using a Kimogila hull and putting a turret on it in "realistic" terms is quite likely what would happen when trying to develop a more powerful bomber. Almost no one "innovates" by creating something brand new. Innovation is taking something and making it work better without having to expend a massive amount of effort.
Ducimus
Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:07 pm
#38
Funny, i keep seeing reference to "master fighter".
When infact, the only "master fighter" in the game that im aware of, is the firespray. All other master ships are MP ships, or a bomber varient.
Point is, your not getting a "master fighter". Your getting a gunship, and if you can look past the form and into the function, you might realize that this ship has awesome potential.
When infact, the only "master fighter" in the game that im aware of, is the firespray. All other master ships are MP ships, or a bomber varient.
Point is, your not getting a "master fighter". Your getting a gunship, and if you can look past the form and into the function, you might realize that this ship has awesome potential.
WarDarkFox1
Wed Dec 08, 2004 6:36 pm
#39
Sylia wrote:
WarDarkFox1 wrote:
there is none, its just the kimo with added texture to it. And yeah the rebels have a b-wing and the imperial have the opressor but they aren't almost identical to any other ships in the fighters teirs. The kryte should be used as our 2nd person ship, that much i can agree with but not as a master fighter
Oh so you want another 2 person ship, and a new master fighter?
Your pissing about your ships looking similar?
Don't expect one shred of sympathy from Imps or Rebels, you've allready got a far more diverse stable of ships.
don't know where you pulled that bs from but as far as everyone knows the privateer's have no 2-player ships. So next time get the facts straight before you post something. I don't expect sympathy from no one, the fact still remain that either way you look at it the rebels and imps got a master ship and a 2-player ship as well. Now the Kryt would have more use as a 2-player ship than a master lvl ship based on what we've seen as far as y-wings/longprobe being the same modle but one is 2-player while the other is for 1, the same can be said for the tie agressor bieng used both as a 1 or 2 player ship.