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Ducimus
Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:15 pm
#27

No.



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GregorianPipes
Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:31 pm
#28


Corran950 wrote:
I agree, In space everybody should be equal. Although i would like there to be some non-factioned ships that everybody can use as well as some non master MP ships.
Jedi in the movies just had normal fighters, if you remember Obi-won was ambushed by Jango when exiting the asteroid. That means that the use of the force requires more concentration when piloting a space craft, or that piloting his ship through the asteroid required his full concentration on finding a clear path.





Actually, in the Old Republic the Jedi had their own fighters. Check out the clicky. I'm not saying Jedi should have their own space profession, but maybe their own certs for some ships like this? And I know, those Jedi ships were in "the waning days of the Old Republic," not this timeline, but come on, hundreds of Jedi aren't this timeline either. It wouldn't necessarily have to be these same ships, just some Jedi only ships.

And no, I'm not a Jedi. Never plan to be. I'm just open to new ideas.

Jedi Fighters

Message Edited by GregorianPipes on 02-24-2005 05:33 PM



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Imaridril
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:15 pm
#29

I agree with the masses that Jedi shouldn't have any special abilities in space, however I think that giving Jedi their own unique ship could actually be good for the game. Namely, what I would like to see, is at some point down the road, a series of ships (not just Jedi ships) are added that can only be flown if you have first completed a relatively difficult series of quests. Furthermore, flying any of these ships would automatically flag you as overt. Here's the quest ships that I'd like to see...


Imperials: TIE Defender

Rebels: E-Wing Prototype

Freelancers: Some sort of new Hutt or Blacksun fighter

Light Side FRS Jedi: Jedi Starfighter

Dark Side FRS Jedi: Sith Infiltrator


None of these ships need to have amazing stats compared to the already available ships, they should just be something different that what that particular pilot branch already has. Also, by making them PvP only, it might actually encourage more PvP in space.




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JediGohan
Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:06 pm
#30

In Rogue Squadron 3: Rebel Strike, there is one mission where Wedge crash lands on Geonosis and uses a Jedi Starfighter to escape the planet.


As long as everybody has access to the starfighter then I think it's ok.


If not then no.


Would be pretty interesting to see what they would do about the hyperdrive rings.




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Sifer2
Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:04 pm
#31

First of Jedi dont have "cheats". With the recent LS PSG changes hell any Melee player can beat the strongest Jedi player in duel. EVERY singe time. So I dont know about those crazy bonus's you speak of.



Now onto the subject of Jedi Pilots. They dont really exist. Jedi do make great pilots because of the Force however. So to me what should be done is maybe adding Force Sensitive Piloting Bonus's. This could be something open to everyone. Because Jedi never recieved any specific Jedi Pilot training. They were just Force Sensitive which helped them fly a ship better. One thing I remembered was that Force Sensitive Pilots were able to use the Force to guide the ship themselves an did'nt need the assistance of an Astromech. This frees the Astromech to focus on other things. So maybe Force Sensitive Pilots could get the cert for a special shipor two an some bonus mods to Astromech management. That certainly would'nt unbalance space combat. The special ships should'nt really be any better or worse than other Tier 4 fighters.





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Corran950
Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:28 am
#32

I agree, In space everybody should be equal. Although i would like there to be some non-factioned ships that everybody can use as well as some non master MP ships.


Jedi in the movies just had normal fighters, if you remember Obi-won was ambushed by Jango when exiting the asteroid. That means that the use of the force requires more concentration when piloting a space craft, or that piloting his ship through the asteroid required his full concentration on finding a clear path.



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ochad
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:58 am
#33


Vulcanus_Shon_Gin wrote:


ochad wrote:

Vulcanus_Shon_Gin wrote:
Would anyone else like to see a jedi pilot profession?????
NOOOO im not saying jedi should be able to use force in space( i personally like the idea but then everyone would whine).
I just think that Jedi should have their own ship IF NOT a whole profession and a bunch of ships for space....... anyone else think so???
The Jedi Grind is haaaard... so why not a give a little space bonus to it?? Maybe not force powers but maneuverability bonuses maybe????





I would not like to see any of these ideas ever. You have enough bonuses already and have become spoiled with them.

It's like asking the devs to code you in some more cheats because the existing ones leave you just short of having every perk the game has to offer.


And im guessing your a whiney jedi flamer.... took me a year to make jedi... I don't want all this crap about "being equal" with you elite profession people. O and by the way what freaking cheats are you talking about?? Is it getting hunted... is it losing xp every time you die?? Is it getting a -10 million xp cap???? You would whine if a jedi beat you in a duel and then you would start screaming "jedi nerf! jedi nerf!!!!

Let me quote myself for you guys: "NOOOO im not saying jedi should be able to use force in space( i personally like the idea but then everyone would whine)......I just think that jedi should have their own ship in space...."

By saying that im not proposing an all powerful jedi ship or profession.... i was just asking for a decent ship like a simple jedi starfighter. I dont want it to pwn everything....i'm serious if there was a jedi ship and you got beat by it once with it almost dying you would whine and cry to the devs for jedi nerfs.

/calmselfdown

Message Edited by Vulcanus_Shon_Gin on 02-24-2005 03:10 PM





Read carefully and pay attention.

I hate to burst your bubble but look at my registration date. Should I have wanted jedi I would have been a knight a very long time ago. I've been done with my FS trees and don't get jedi because I WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE DOWN FALL OF THE GAME, which just so happens to be jedi.

I have guildmates and old friends that have been jedi since the first week they made holocrons work. I pray they get jedi ripped from thier accounts everyday. The only people that don't see jedi ruining the game are the jedi themselves who feel the need to be better than other players just on a profession alone.

From the time I started keeping track I've so far been killed by a jedi or had a jedi involved 42 times of my last 60 PVP deaths. Think I'm a little bitter? Hell yeah I am. I've been playing this game for as long or longer than any other player that has ever subscribed to SWG and yet with the very best equipment credits can buy and enough PVP experience to make me know better I can't compete with the uberleet kiddies that chose a profession where everyone carries the same weapon and everyone wears the same clothes so they can have an edge over original gamers.

Finally JTLS is released where I can avoid the bastards who have slowely eaten away at the foundation of this game. Now I see kids asking for yet another perk that will take twitch based game and corrupt it to allow jedi to have an edge.

Pi$$ off.



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Russell647
Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:52 am
#34

ummlets just leave jedi out of this




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DeepFatFryer
Sat Feb 26, 2005 11:27 am
#35

Fine, Jedi get +1 missile launching skill.



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Iceman-KG-
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:10 pm
#36

I would like to see the game without Jedi period, so I guess that's a no.



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Zeon_Zaku
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:14 pm
#37






Ducimus wrote:
No.





QFE



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Zeon_Zaku
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:15 pm
#38






Iceman-KG- wrote:

I would like to see the game without Jedi period, so I guess that's a no.






QFE again!



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GrupertRHD
Sat Feb 26, 2005 8:25 pm
#39

Simple way to this! Just rename your ship Jedi Starfighter! Problem taken care of!
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