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slippidy wrote:
Ghost lets put it this way at the moment all that needs to be done is instituting a tef when using transfer force, thats a nice easy quick fix. Yes there are many problems with the TEF system and this is one thing that can be doen to improve it. So lets concentrate on the specific before we get to the general.
/agree
Dunki wrote:
not sure if u are aware of this...but on my server there is one master defender jedi that rolls with 3 other none overt jedi. Once he begins to fight he puts on Avoid Incap and has his lame buddies transfer him force with out receiving a tef. So there is no way to take him down till we drain the force of 4 jedi. There needs to be a tef put in for transfer force.
LOL! Gotta love the ingenuity of players!
Lires wrote:
Kaejz wrote:
So are you saying the old covert Warcry bug wasn't exploiting the TEF system either, Lires? Same type of situation. One got fixed, one will get fixed.
I can careless about the warcry bug. I never used it, nor has that lame bug been used to its fulliest on myself. Let it get fixed, no problem with me. Adapt to the change and move on. That is what you have to do. What I am saying is they can call it an exploit, but it is not. It is reliant on the TEF system. Sorry, but Gorath isn't one of those lame servers that spams warcry/intimidate every second of the battle.
Message Edited by Lires on 08-26-2004 01:15 PM
You are correct inthe fact that it is not an exploit, but that does not mean that it isn't an issue that need to be resolved. Calling this an exploit is a bit over-handed I agree, but it does grasp peoples attention in this case. Now its not that there were not tactics involved when this situation arrived it was the fact that no matter how much we beat on your jedi to drain your force we could not kill you because another jedi was transfering force to you and we could not attack him. This is the problem it makes you basically invincible and that is something that has to be fixed. When a jedi of the same faction aids another jedi that is teffed they should recieve a tef. Its no different then a covert doc healing an overt person. If you see at as a problem then why do you continue to use it as you do. I would think that the avoidance of certain problems in the game shows ones true ability to defend and attack other players. Such as (I) having a no DOT rule. Adapt change and move on, isnt really a rational excuse for such behaviour.
Ghost151 wrote:
The biggest joke was a Neutral BH that came into a Rebel stronghold of 4 base's packed with rebel players, joined the Rebellion right there in their own base then commenced to attacking their own Jedi right there in front of everyone. His Imperial friend showed up but did not dare attack because he would have been attackable to all the rebels but no one could touch the BH.
AlexiusDrakmoore wrote:
DarthTomm wrote:
Your analogy only works for Imperals though. If a supposed "Rebel" bounty hunter attacked any rebel jedi, on a mission for the "Emperor", he should be revoking his rebel status.
Are you saying if some rebel noob out to make some money and tried to cap Luke Skywalker, that Han, Leia, Chewy and Lando shouldn't be able to help defend him?? Thats just rediculous...
Actually it does work.. the only problem is the person that hired the BH. Now say that if Luke and Leia decided that Wedge was a threat to the rebellion by being overly aggressive, or destroying a frigate with refugees thinking it contained weapons, and decided that he had to be executed for warcrimes... now do you think anyone would help him? If Chewy supposedly broke some guys neck at a cantina and Leia wanted him brought in for questioning, how much resistance do you think Han would put up?? He might WANT to help his friend, but that would make enemies on both side of the fence for him.
The only flaw is the emperor hiring the rebel bounty hunters.
I disagree. We are talking specifically about jedi here, if any rebel were to do something blatantly non-rebel, and hunting a good lightside rebel jedi would be very anti rebellion, he should not be a rebel any more.
In your example the person is always doing something wrong, and is justly accused of a crime. The light jedi are inhearantly conisedered to be good, and on the side of the rebellion. The only reason a rebel jedi should be on a Rebel BH terminal, would be because he started killing other rebels, and thus would be soon a Dark Jedi.
Dunki wrote:
not sure if u are aware of this...but on my server there is one master defender jedi that rolls with 3 other none overt jedi. Once he begins to fight he puts on Avoid Incap and has his lame buddies transfer him force with out receiving a tef. So there is no way to take him down till we drain the force of 4 jedi. There needs to be a tef put in for transfer force.
Actually, I put on avoid incap when my HAM is about to go, hence, to avoid incap. Sure they can recieve a TEF if you desire, but that still won't save you from using your force run 3 button and running around in circles trying to get that bugged bleed then immediately running into the water. There are many different issues with the system in play. You just aren't smart enough to handle the situation appropiately. It is not our fault that you rushed into the FRS with a half-assed template,an exploited force pool through the meditation bug,and expect to be the strongest Jedi in the galaxy. Sorry Dunki, get some skill and some friends that know what they are doing.
To claim exploit is nothing but a misnomer. It is reliant on the TEF system, the only exploiting done here is your ignorance about the situation.