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jediwanter
Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:14 am
#14

You actually think this will get fixed? ROFL I like your optimism,it's cute. =) Since you have some hope,I'll throw in a couple requests myself:

1) Will you at least admit that tuning pearl/crystals into the new system has NOTHING to do with previous stats?

2)Will you at least comment on the status of the resists on our robes as we were promised?

3)Will you please explain how an unarmed fist does more damage than a Lightsaber using our most powerful special (I know,they're controlling damage from behind the scenes...lmao)

4)Will you explain why you didn't warn us that the system was still completely unfinished and to postpone our conversion?


I nominate a comedian/porno star for our next correspondent........then at least we can laugh while we're getting f*k'd



Ron'Revog
Volcanus
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:51 am
#15

ouch, lol thats a clever trick though :-D
RobK602002
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:57 am
#16






ArjunThakur wrote:

Bleh I hate the TEF system, I wish it would die a horrible death in the saarlac's stomach.




woot, lol

DarthTomm
Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:59 am
#17






SLK wrote:





Ghost151 wrote:

They can fix this as soon as they fix it so a BH grouped with 19 other players can't all attack a Jedi in the same factionand no onegrouped with the Jedi can assist him combat wise unless they happen to be opposite faction of the Jedi.


There are too many BH's intentionally taking the same faction as the Jedi they are hunting just so they can group gank the Jedi and no one can help the Jedi unless they happen to be opposite faction.







Actually they can fix the original first.



The bug you are talking about is a factional bug ... I dont even know if its a bug since they based bh missions on faction.


If they did that, then this only make sense, but should be changed in the GCW patch right?


Let me share an example with you..


You are an "imperial jedi", and your friends are imperial. When an imperial bh (hired by the emperor himself) tries to kill thedark jedi, do you really think your imperial friends would protect the outlawed imperial jedi? I think not.


If you want to get TEF on everyone, go neutral?



The transfer force is a much bigger exploit because there is no way to gain TEF on that person no matter if you are rebel or imp








Your analogy only works for Imperals though. If a supposed "Rebel" bounty hunter attacked any rebel jedi, on a mission for the "Emperor", he should be revoking his rebel status.


Are you saying if some rebel noob out to make some money and tried to cap Luke Skywalker, that Han, Leia, Chewy and Lando shouldn't be able to help defend him?? Thats just rediculous...




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Cahnuuk
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:07 am
#18


Celera wrote:


sce33 wrote:
Today a friend of mine was attacked by 3 BH's who all had seperate missions on him, were both DJKs and i know how this guild of BH's opperate all imp with all imp jedi missions for no group tef. Anyway, we was fighting the 3 of them and i was doing all i could do to help him, basicly xfering force when a BH turned around and attacked me, im assuming it had to be a tef. We cleaned up the BH rather quickly after that, but point being the BH must have attacked me with a tef from xfering force.


Close, but no cigar.

Talk to the guys at the New Aldera bases (all Rebel, 20+ of them) who defended one Rebel Jedi successfully from us and who lost another on our second suicide run into their base. This right before we spotted your friend getting mind buffed in the Cnet cantina with the dozen of you and couldn't resist giving it a try.

I know you think we're always showing up at your door and looking for imperials, but what do you expect when you're in a guild with double-digit jedi and you're all on the terms so much?


Message Edited by Celera on 08-26-2004 06:25 AM



Careful Arek, or Odium will pull the "Darque Shuffle" on you and claim he was talking about the other imperial BH guild on Wanderhome. Uh, what's their name again? Um...



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mikeymonkey
Thu Aug 26, 2004 6:31 am
#19

Soooo...you feel they should have this taken away even though it's a bar that you yourself don't even need or have?


That sounds like some whiny little kid in a candy store not wanting his brother to have any.


How about we take away your broken TEFs, huh?



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MakkTenn
Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:05 am
#20


no, NO MORE **edit**ING NERFING JEDI! we've been NERFED enough..


Its called good use of TACTICS..


just like people hate the fact that smugglers can feign death. Bh's can eye shot. TKM can meditate. Jedi with master defender get avoid incap. ITS THE ONLY cool thing they get.



Message Edited by MakkTenn on 08-26-2004 07:07 AM



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Renairdor
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:48 am
#21






ArjunThakur wrote:

Bleh I hate the TEF system, I wish it would die a horrible death in the saarlac's stomach.







Me too, funny you say this - I've been posting about this on the Naritus forms looking for discussion before taking it to the CGW forums


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Naritus&message.id=177031


GTEF and BH TEF are one of the worst mechanisms in the game, IMO. So is waiting one hour to drop Overt. Folks stay covert because they can, and if anything gain a PvP advantage from it. That's certainly not the way it should be.


Anyways, anyone feel free to throw your voice in here. Some folks like GTEF, but mainly since it's 'hard' to go Overt, then drop it, and they like the first strike ability when it favors them. Me, I think there should be a clear line between deciding to PvP, and to not. If you are deciding not to have the 'PvP Switch' turned on and go Overt, then you must be a bystander to those who have that switch turned On. Or turn it on yourself if you are serious about helping you buddys out


Ren

iskareot
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:51 am
#22






sce33 wrote:

Today a friend of mine was attacked by 3 BH's who all had seperate missions on him, were both DJKs and i know how this guild of BH's opperate all imp with allimp jedi missions for no group tef. Anyway, we was fighting the 3 of them and i was doing all i could do to help him, basicly xfering force when a BH turned around and attacked me, im assuming it had to be a tef.We cleaned up the BH rather quickly after that, but point being the BH must have attacked me with a tef from xfering force.







Yeah man Im sorry but this is a bit more important Id say...


Lol transfer force tef-- great lol now people will want a nerf to transfer force now that is just funny **edit**




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HavelockVetinari
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:53 am
#23






Mrjuice wrote:

If they are aiding their friend in combat ... they need to be targetable as well. This is just like healing an overt faction member if you were covert.


/sign for a fix if this is the case.






Yep. Can jedi still do the covert healing thing, btw? It really pisses me off when I'm beating on someone and a covert comes along and undoes all my damage.



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RelixLTD
Thu Aug 26, 2004 9:54 am
#24

yep agreed .......... I say OVERT or NEUTRAL. Factional cities, factional vendors. "Are you IN or are you OUT?" I mean really, unless we want to be a bothan spy what use is the covert system anyway other than stress relief?

AlexiusDrakmoore
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:01 am
#25






DarthTomm wrote:



Your analogy only works for Imperals though. If a supposed "Rebel" bounty hunter attacked any rebel jedi, on a mission for the "Emperor", he should be revoking his rebel status.


Are you saying if some rebel noob out to make some money and tried to cap Luke Skywalker, that Han, Leia, Chewy and Lando shouldn't be able to help defend him?? Thats just rediculous...




Actually it does work.. the only problem is the person that hired the BH. Now say that if Luke and Leia decided that Wedge was a threat to the rebellion by being overly aggressive, or destroying a frigate with refugees thinking it contained weapons, and decided that he had to be executed for warcrimes... now do you think anyone would help him? If Chewy supposedly broke some guys neck at a cantina and Leia wanted him brought in for questioning, how much resistance do you think Han would put up?? He might WANT to help his friend, but that would make enemies on both side of the fence for him.


The only flaw is the emperor hiring the rebel bounty hunters.





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slippidy
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:36 am
#26






jediwanter wrote:

You actually think this will get fixed? ROFL I like your optimism,it's cute. =) Since you have some hope,I'll throw in a couple requests myself:

1) Will you at least admit that tuning pearl/crystals into the new system has NOTHING to do with previous stats?

2)Will you at least comment on the status of the resists on our robes as we were promised?

3)Will you please explain how an unarmed fist does more damage than a Lightsaber using our most powerful special (I know,they're controlling damage from behind the scenes...lmao)

4)Will you explain why you didn't warn us that the system was still completely unfinished and to postpone our conversion?


I nominate a comedian/porno star for our next correspondent........then at least we can laugh while we're getting f*k'd






Come on Ofari it is not like this is a very hard fix to institute at all and I do not think this is wishful thinking in the least. I guess your tone of sarcasm comes from the fact that it was your group that was using these cheap tactics. You of all people who have ragged against others to maintian at least some maturity and decancy in the game. We are not ignoring the fact that their are many other problems and bugs that need to be fixed, but this is a very minor quick fix that could be instituted and would end such tactics. Just in the same way that you pushed for speed hacking to be ended and caught, we are pushing that this be ended.



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