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-Torque- wrote:My full temp is
M Rifle, M BH, Carbines 4/0/4/0
Yes, I know I need some Medic skills. Actually the temp isn't too Bad though.
You only have 2 snares and 1 knockdown attack if I remember correctly. Without at least 1 root and 1 KD attack you will have a hard time keeping a cloaker from cloaking.
HyprHypo wrote:
Thats funny, I invest every single skill point to my ranged professions and a Jedi can negate that with 1 skill
Not funnier than Master Enhancers spending 89 skill points on Stasis just to see their target duel somebody else to break it. Or Master Force Wielders spending 89 skill points on their profession and seeing their damage output reduced to almost zero by just the Defender xx4x line.
To post in a forum "nerf cloak because I cant beat it" is the lowest form of crying. It makes you as bad as all the Jebay crying "nerf BH loot" atm because they are not good enough with their newly purchased jedi to hunt all the other lvl 80 npcs in the game.
If you are having problems hunting please ask for advice, but never ask for another profession to be nerfed, that just makes you a legitimate target for flaming - which reminds me to insert the obligatory CMN.
-Torque- wrote:
Nice to see a Jedi where he don't belong.
chewie49 wrote:5. you dont have to take jedi bounties at all, there are NPC missions, non-BH missions, quest missions, artisans (you could become a crafter, etc).
just dont come running to the forums to cry nerf as soon as your template cant beat EVERY single other template out there with ease
Everybody can post in every forum as long as it stays civil. Just because it says "Weaponsmith Forum" doesnt mean people cannot comment on the Weaponsmith profession on topics affecting the whole game. Just because it says "Bounty Hunter Forum" doesnt mean people cannot comment on petitions to nerf Jedi skills.
Message Edited by -Torque- on 08-08-2005 05:58 AM
chewie49 wrote:
if you run into a jedi that can cloak that means they have sacrificed something (usually defence) and they are probably master powers (aka 20-40 total melee/ranged def). This means that:
1.if you jump them, you have ever opertunity in the world to pwn them before they know what's going on
-Torque- wrote:
Who says I'm asking it to be nerfed, I'm jsut saying it should have a way of being broken. Say your a bh hunting a mark out in the open and not in the city, he sees you and cloaks right away, you get to him and bam no way to target him.. yet you see him. It's NOT right.Message Edited by -Torque- on 08-08-2005 05:58 AM
You cannot see him. He is clouding your mind, making you believe he is not there. If he sees you approaching, try harder next time.
And you are asking for a nerf, because you want the skill changed in a way that puts the ones having said skill in a worse position than they are currently in. It can be broken if you are able to gather lots of people around the cloaked Jedi (whose location you get with your seeker droid).
mortpur wrote:
if they are bothering you for hours...thats griefing and is subject to a SWG account ban. report it. they would do the same to us.
How in the hell is that griefing? Do you know how many times I get accused of griefing, exploiting, harrassment EVERYDAY by the puke rebel Jedi on Corbant? Don't stoop to that level. Don't report and don't whine.
Cloakers= harder to kill but not impossible. If you get discovered do what was said above, hunt them later - leave the planet and come back in a couple minutes (different starport if it's not Lok). It's necessary to kill them instantly as they will just run and cloak (and with the lag it can look like you're right next to them but they are actually more than 20 away so cloak gets off 99 percent of the time). So just be patient.
Mau
-Torque- wrote:
Who says I'm asking it to be nerfed, I'm jsut saying it should have a way of being broken.
There is a way - keep him near you and he can't cloak. If your template doesn't have some crowd control you need to switch templates, or just give the cloakers up.
There are legitimate complaints about cloak being used for resetting base terminals and exploits allowing cloakers to remain cloaked while attacking, but what you're describing is jedi using this ability the way it is meant to be used.
Eskie wrote:
-Torque- wrote:
Who says I'm asking it to be nerfed, I'm jsut saying it should have a way of being broken. Say your a bh hunting a mark out in the open and not in the city, he sees you and cloaks right away, you get to him and bam no way to target him.. yet you see him. It's NOT right.
Message Edited by -Torque- on 08-08-2005 05:58 AM
You cannot see him. He is clouding your mind, making you believe he is not there. If he sees you approaching, try harder next time.
And you are asking for a nerf, because you want the skill changed in a way that puts the ones having said skill in a worse position than they are currently in. It can be broken if you are able to gather lots of people around the cloaked Jedi (whose location you get with your seeker droid).
Clouding my mind while talking trash "You can't kill me now, better luck next time I'm putting you in my pwn'd BH list because you had to give up.. " yeah that serves a purpouse.
But how about this then MBH Mask. a MBH can mask himself from his marks while walking (like Mask Scent) no Jedi can see him until he makes the first move, but then of course you jedi will complain about BH's having too much content.
-Torque- wrote:
Eskie wrote:
-Torque- wrote:
Who says I'm asking it to be nerfed, I'm jsut saying it should have a way of being broken. Say your a bh hunting a mark out in the open and not in the city, he sees you and cloaks right away, you get to him and bam no way to target him.. yet you see him. It's NOT right.Message Edited by -Torque- on 08-08-2005 05:58 AM
You cannot see him. He is clouding your mind, making you believe he is not there. If he sees you approaching, try harder next time.
And you are asking for a nerf, because you want the skill changed in a way that puts the ones having said skill in a worse position than they are currently in. It can be broken if you are able to gather lots of people around the cloaked Jedi (whose location you get with your seeker droid).
Clouding my mind while talking trash "You can't kill me now, better luck next time I'm putting you in my pwn'd BH list because you had to give up.. " yeah that serves a purpouse.But how about this then MBH Mask. a MBH can mask himself from his marks while walking (like Mask Scent) no Jedi can see him until he makes the first move, but then of course you jedi will complain about BH's having too much content.
If a Jedi says that I would make it a point to not drop the mission - you dont have to drop the mission, it is a choice you can make. If you continue stalking him he will either log out or de-cloak to fight you. In either case, he doesnt get anything else done.
You already have pretty good tools to keep a Jedi from focussing on you, if you dont use them its your fault.
Eskie wrote:
-Torque- wrote:
Eskie wrote:
-Torque- wrote:
Who says I'm asking it to be nerfed, I'm jsut saying it should have a way of being broken. Say your a bh hunting a mark out in the open and not in the city, he sees you and cloaks right away, you get to him and bam no way to target him.. yet you see him. It's NOT right.
Message Edited by -Torque- on 08-08-2005 05:58 AM
You cannot see him. He is clouding your mind, making you believe he is not there. If he sees you approaching, try harder next time.
And you are asking for a nerf, because you want the skill changed in a way that puts the ones having said skill in a worse position than they are currently in. It can be broken if you are able to gather lots of people around the cloaked Jedi (whose location you get with your seeker droid).
Clouding my mind while talking trash "You can't kill me now, better luck next time I'm putting you in my pwn'd BH list because you had to give up.. " yeah that serves a purpouse.
But how about this then MBH Mask. a MBH can mask himself from his marks while walking (like Mask Scent) no Jedi can see him until he makes the first move, but then of course you jedi will complain about BH's having too much content.
If a Jedi says that I would make it a point to not drop the mission - you dont have to drop the mission, it is a choice you can make. If you continue stalking him he will either log out or de-cloak to fight you. In either case, he doesnt get anything else done.
You already have pretty good tools to keep a Jedi from focussing on you, if you dont use them its your fault.
My last mission I approached a group hunting Krayts. I pull my T21 as I see my mark jumping on his BARC (Which he probably ripped a noob off for) I blow his BARC up and he force runs, so I burst after him, I charge shot him he falls, I head shot him. he gets up Roots me then runs off while I see +Cloak+ go up.
I have no problem with that, he's saving his tail.
The mission before that the jedi went invisible right off the bat and just sat there yelling obscenties. Dropped a house and walked inside. Came outside and ran circles around me while using force techniques (force heal, lightsaber ignite, channel) If we can see him exposing himself like that though we should be able to target him, thats all I'm stating.