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Juusman
Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:48 pm
#27
Hey guys.. can we move this topic into another thread? This was supposed to be a simple poll thread.. not to debate or flame each other.
Thanks
truewildman
Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:40 pm
#28
Juusman wrote:
Hey guys.. can we move this topic into another thread? This was supposed to be a simple poll thread.. not to debate or flame each other.
Thanks
Very sorry.
Option 2. 
Selandria
Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:05 am
#29
KaylBreinhar wrote:
Or you could just overt before entering Kessel, and simply nod your head in sarcastic mockery when you see a grand total of about one overt person per month in there. For all the talk going on in these forums about making Kessel PvP-enabled again, I haven't been seeing many of you (at least on Eclipse) actually putting your ship where your mouth is.
Exactly. Doesn't this say something? I believe the people screaming for PVP in Kessel are really but a vocal minority. The bulk of the people either:
- Have no desire to PVP
- Don't want to PVP in the current implementation of PVP due to various problems (1-shot kills, extreme decay, load camping, greifers, etc.)
- Complain that it is too tedius to go overt (I've read this several times on the forums)
- All of the above
Until they address issues with PVP in general, trying to force PVP on those that do not want it will not bring you any more PVP. If you re-enable PVP mode in Kessel, you won't experience any more PVP. You will just find Kessel empty out of most of the players except those forced to go there to get their master missions done. And then they will be gone once that is done.
One thing they could do is make Kessel a hybrid PVP zone. When you go to the deep space station to enter, give the option of enterting in PVP or non-PVP enabled mode. If you select PVP, then the old Kessel PVP rules apply. Those that select non-PVP enter it like it is now. This would at least eliminate #3 from my list as you would no longer have to worry about going to find a station to go overt before entering Kessel. And it would allow Privateers who want to PVP to do so without having to be master and declaring to one faction or the other like they do if they want to enter Deep Space.
Sel
truewildman
Sun Nov 28, 2004 1:34 am
#30
KaylBreinhar wrote:
General PvP can't be done unless they can make certain no one gets spawn camped. If they eliminated the IDIOTIC system of only one h-point leading into the sector and just made it possible to directly hyper into the system to four distinct points, that would alleviate SOME of the problem, but four h-points can be just as camped as one central one.
Read the patch notes. They already made the spawn point random, and made it to where you are invulnerable for the first several seconds. And there was always 3 different spawn points for rebel, neutral, and imperial. But, now they're random.
So that point is now moot.
Also, you people seem to forget about us neutrals too easily. Before, I could go in and PvP, "fight the cops", as a neutral smuggler.
Why would I want to declare myself a "cop" to go fight other "cops"? I can't PvP without declaring Rebel, or Imperial. Well, I'm neither, so now what?
Message Edited by truewildman on 11-27-2004 02:35 PM
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