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I want to use droid storage so I can take stuff out of my personal inventory. My house is full now and no amount of backpacks and locked containers can increase the number of items the house can hold. At least with droid storage I would have a place to put all these materials.
This is the one thing that should define the Bounty Hunter from all others, if nothing else.
Our ability to use the Probot, and use it efficiently in combat.
1 - Probots need to be restored to pre-nerf armor and defensive capabilities.
2 - Their combat ability does not necessarily have to be that high, enough to help and attract attention, but not the old level where they soloed reds themselves in many cases. So, combat ability boosted to reflect a more realistic level.
3 - Allow only Bounty Hunters to use them. In this manner, the problem with dabbling that we saw in the Creature Handler tradition, is done away with. What person will go through the trouble to create a Bounty Hunter (of all things), just to advance up the investigation tree (of all things) to use droids?
4 - Restoration of Probots to permanent status. Droid death is a terrible idea, if you play a BH you know why lol, it's just ridiculous to assume we must pay out 8k minimum each mission, just to have support that is 1-shot anyway!
This is the primary droid problem that we see.
Secondary to this main issue is the other droids that we use.
Owning our personal inventory of permanent droids must be implemented if we are relegated to purchasing these droids at their current prices, defined by the resources needed to build them.
This means making Arakyd DZ-70 Fugitive Trackers, and Seeker Droids, permanent to our datapads.
As we advance up the investigation tree, the chance that these might be destroyed by incidents will decrease to zero.
This way it's reasonable to assume that when I take the hours to find a droid engineer whose shop is open, and pay the 20k or so to buy all these droids, that they won't all disappear an hour later and I have to go through the process, and the expense, again.
Any further comments on droids?
uuuummmm didnt han solo kill a imperial probe bot with one blaster shot???
those things are supposed to be weak as hell
I'm amazed that we still are being forced to buy droids from players for our missions. It's beyond unfair to us that we should be forced into supporting another profession at exhorbitant rates. And its not even the DE's problem. It's the lack of thought and foresight by the games developers that has created this problem.
It's very simple. The work involved in finding, traveling and ultimately killing the mark is more than enough to justify the reward. And on top of this it should not be costing us money to advance like this, and it does. And still we are ignored. We're either being tossed the finger or someone is on long term leave at SOE and no one is picking up the slack.
The artificial time sinks put in place to keep the number of master bounty hunters down is very reminiscient of EQ to me. We have a weapon that is far below reasonable damage ability compared to other weapons AND it forces a lower con color on our targets which reduces our exp (I'm assuming) compared to weapons that do 3-4 times the damge, or more!~ Now add the fact that we have to pay lots of money to even do our missions, meaning more time not doing them in order to make money to afford them, only to have our marks bug out white, which in any amount bugged marks is unnacceptable.
/rant off. Please get this stuff fixed so we can enjoy the game like the professions that have been getting so much loving lately.
>>>>>uuuummmm didnt han solo kill a imperial probe bot with one blaster shot???
>>>>>those things are supposed to be weak as hell
Actually, it was Chewbacca who hit the probe droid. I was about to post the same thing, but then i remembered (if i remember correctly) that the probe droid used a self destruct command on itself to avoid being "sliced" for the information it was carrying (coordinates to the hidden rebel base on Hoth).
Regardless, i think the post-nerf probots are working properly. They shouldn't have very much HAM.
Yes.
The devs are concerned about the droid engineer economy.
Obviously, creating a situation in which one whole profession relies not only on droid engineers to perform their profession ethically, but for the entire artisan system to be perfectly balanced just to us is not only unrealistic, but also very unreasonable.
So, in the interest of being constructive, if they are to make droids permanent to our datapads, how do they do so without hurting the business of droid engineers?
The answer comes in the form of upgrades and advancement. It would take a bit of tale spinning to explain it away, but it seems to fit right in, considering C3PO is a very old droid whose abilities have grown with time.
As a droid is used, its programming is compressed over time. The more it is used, the more the programming is compressed. In time, capacity for new modules is made available. Thus, through use of a droid, a bounty hunter can return to their local droid engineer for a new module or upgrade.
The suite of upgrades would be entirely up to the devs to concieve and implement, but there is an enormous ammount of room there for possibilities.
In addition, this idea further lends to the concept of character customization and the principle of character advancement, which is the cornerstone of nearly all video games ever produced.
I somehow doubt this will ever be read by a dev, and although it is the only solution that would take the interests of all parties involved into account, it is unlikely to be implemented.
Nevertheless, if they want a perfect solution, here it is. Next time it won't be free of charge.
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uuuummmm didnt han solo kill a imperial probe bot with one blaster shot???
those things are supposed to be weak as hell
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Actually, the droid self destructed.
In addition, Han Solo killed storm troopers in one hit, so it's not a fair comparison to begin with.
Wepps, probots might be already fixed. Here's a message I got from whatley from a private discussion about probots. (I hope he doesn't get mad with for posting a PM, but this is more of a PSA/PSI type message) 
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Shef,
Testing out two probots tonight, extensively. Here's what I can tell you.
The armor 6 droids are insane. You can tell they are armor 6 droids by examining them, they have medium armor and 40% effectiveness in all areas. Now, one thing to remember about these is they are bugged in a way. When you CALL the droid from the datapad, you want to look at him everytime to make sure his effectiveness's are still all 40%, once In a while they won't be, and he will be vulnerable to energy, this is bad, and he will drop like a bag of dirt in like 3 shots. If this happens, just store/call him again and he will be fine.
When he's at normal operating status, I have yet to see one take more than 70 points of damage from a mark. That's right, 70. The combat window says he was hit for 400-500-600 whatever, but what appears over his head (the actual dmg figure) is way the hell lower. I was sending in the droid, by himself and just sat there and watched for a minute against a lvl 28 mark. After 60 seconds he had taken 200dmg, that's it, I hadn't even touched the mark.
I spend all night doing this, testing him in different scenarios, and its impressive. He doesn't do any real dmg (hits a mark for 50 tops) but he can take a beating.
I'm positive that the reason people still think they suck is due to the effectivness bug, and yeah, when that happens they do suck, bad. But if you just examine him everytime to make sure, he'll last forever.
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i disagree about the probot. We as bounthy hunters should not have to depend on probots to cover us. I also disagree with the fact that we should not buy our bots from players. We should absolutly. however the devs need to do one of 2 things... either lower the resources needed to creat the Seeker and imperial driod or raise BH mission payouts to the level that we can afford to buy the needed driods and at the very least not LOSE money doing missions. This is something that i still cannot fathom.
so shouldnt a probot then self destruct when hit with a blaster bolt???
heh only makes sense in that case. haveing those things as tanks is silly. droids should be utility not combat.