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Arg0nus
Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:35 am
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JDspeeder1 wrote:
I’ve been playing since launch and I have some questions about JTL. Since I’m disabled (some of you might remember my pre-launch threads wondering if I’d be able to play at all), I can’t use a standard keyboard. I type using an on-screen keyboard uncreatively called OnScreen (http://imgpresents.com/onscreen/onscreen.htm). It’s a program that puts a clickable keyboard on the screen so I can type with the mouse. In SWG now, I do fine. I just have to find and “Examine” an object to be able to type or hit any of the UI buttons, and I’ll probably be able to solve that problem if I can ever find my copy of Game Commander 3 (http://www.gamecommander.com/). I wonder how well I’d do with JTL, considering my situation. I noticed on the JTL Quick Guide that acceleration/deceleration, yaw, and roll are all keyboard controlled.

Would maneuvering with the mouse alone be enough?

Also, with the mouse controlling the ship’s movement, will the JTL interface ever give me an actual cursor so I can type?

If so, is OnScreen visible while in space? Some programs seem to open “on top of” OnScreen. Luckily, SWG opens “under” it, if I set my resolution to 1024 x 768 and run SWG in Borderless Window mode. If JTL displays differently though, OnScreen might be “covered” when I get in space. Devs, the OnScreen website above has a free demo you can download for testing.

If the answer to these questions is no, I will basically be unable to play in space.

One solution I thought of was to include an option to change the controls to be more like the X-Wing and TIE Fighter games. In those games, you could control all ship movements with the mouse (or joystick). Moving the mouse (or joystick) up-and-down controlled pitch, side-to-side controlled yaw, but holding the right mouse button (or joystick button 2) while moving left or right controlled roll and up and down controlled acceleration and deceleration respectively. The left mouse button (or joystick button 1) fired whichever weapon you had activated, you could change weapons with a keyboard key. This setup worked for me because it let me control everything that was extremely time sensitive (i.e. movement and throttle) with the mouse and put less immediately necessary actions (i.e. weapon changing, power allocation, docking, etc.) on the keyboard where I can operate them with Game Commander. This scheme also allows for more then two weapons on some ships, whereas the current scheme does not.

I think I’m not the only one who would use this scheme, but you could keep the current setup as an option too.

Devs, please respond to this. If things stay as they are, I may be stuck on the ground forever!





I'm sure I've read somewhere that mouse Control works with JtL.


But as another poster said...it's Twitch...so the one with the fastest reflexes wins....


I know you don't want, or need pity....(not trying to offer it) but I have a feeling even with a mouse, JtL is going to be difficult for you...Why can't someone invent a jack that plugs into your head so you completely bypass the need for physical reflexes...let your brain and the computer talk directly. lol


I would love to have that....Come on....Microsoft has already changed controller drivers to the name "Human Interface Devices"....maybe they already have those plans.....lol



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RowdyDurango
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:24 am
#28

/bump

Devs, this really deserves a response



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RowdyDurango
Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:47 am
#29


i dont know if it will help or not, but i also posted a link to this question on my servers forum, perhaps someone there knows how to get a devs attention or possibly a definate answer for you.


Also everyone i have talked to so far said sending a PM to Garva with your question is a good wy to get an answer

Message Edited by RowdyDurango on 08-25-2004 09:45 AM



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GarVa
Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:06 am
#30

You can control the ship with the mouse (such as pitch and yaw),, I'm not sure on the other onscreen stuff, still waiting for a reply.





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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:

/get back up there. Thisdeserves dev/correspondent attention.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:11 am Post subject:

Gee, I have great timing...


Thanks for the response Garva. I'll be interested to see how this turns out.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:25 am Post subject:

Thanks for replying to this garva. It really is one of those important things. Even for those of us who do not have such challenges. It effect our friend it effects us all. Oh and btw for your concern over teamspeak/ventrilo think of all of us who play characters of the opposite sex. How funny is it going to be when folks who are used to seeing my "geisha" image designer toon hear my deep bass voice. lol. The curtain is going to be pushed aside for many of us.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:00 am Post subject:

Glad GarVa responded, hopefully you will get a definitive answer soon



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:02 am Post subject:

Thank you Garva



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:10 am Post subject:

/bump for the poster, gl man




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:46 am Post subject:

Bumpity-bump.


C'mon Devs, respond to this thread.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 11:59 am Post subject:

/bump I would also encourage you to also call and email Sony directly. This is an important question for many. I would hate to see a fellow Chilastran stuck on the ground.






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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:15 pm Post subject:

Depending on you disability there are several hard ware products that may assist you. Since I don't know the extent of your disability I'll try to list several options. Review as you see fit.


Belkin Nostromo Series:





Foot Pedals:



Frog Pad Keyboards:



If these are unusable perhaps they will provide some ideas to a solution.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject:

*bump*
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:34 pm Post subject:

/bump




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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject:

/bump



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:37 pm Post subject:


/BodilessGodVoice on "And with a boom loud enough to shake the world, I God move this post to the top where it will be seen for another 5 minutes before being pushed to the 10th page."


EDIT: Even God makes grammer mistakes

Message Edited by Zwaggah on 08-25-2004 10:38 PM



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KefkaQ
Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:57 pm
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le bump



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Zerorunner
Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:53 am
#32

Thank you Garva.

/bump!




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Thu Aug 26, 2004 4:04 am
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topside




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Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:43 am
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Zwaggah, love the edit

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yusonge
Thu Aug 26, 2004 7:53 am
#35






GarVa wrote:

You can control the ship with the mouse (such as pitch and yaw),, I'm not sure on the other onscreen stuff, still waiting for a reply.






Thanks Garva for the answer and please keep em coming.



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Shadwe
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:46 am
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Sticky this thread to top then we would not have to BUMP it.



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LuciusScipio
Thu Aug 26, 2004 10:59 am
#37

I've been using my old Razor mouse for a few years now. It has an excellent amount of buttons and handles very very well. I recommend it over themicrosoft intelli mouse series. I used it when I was primarily playing first person shooters. You might want to check it out and see if this may work for you:


http://www.razerzone.com/


Anyway, time to give this good thread a good old fashioned /bump.



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Zerorunner
Thu Aug 26, 2004 1:18 pm
#38

/bump





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Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:55 pm
#39

/bump



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