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Thread: A-wings.. The annoying Ship I dont even bother to engage and this is why..
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PixellJ
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:02 am
#27
When you leave them for your friends to kill, how do they do? Surely you must all be stuck and dead if they are truly unattackable.
Wili
Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:32 am
#28
Ok, let's compare some rebel and imperial ships.
A-Wing: Mass 65k | Acc./Dec. 40/60 | Pitch 250 | Yaw 250 | Roll 125 | Weapons 1/1
Tie Adv: Mass 65k | Acc/Dec. 40/60 | Pitch 300 | Yaw 300 | Roll 150 | Weapons 2/1
X-Wing: Mass 100k | Acc/Dec. 25/30 | Pitch 300 | Yaw 200 | Roll 150 | Weapons 3/1
Tie Opp: Mass 150k | Acc/Dec. 35/35 | Pitch 100 | Pitch 100 | Roll 50 | Weapons 2/3
B-Wing: Mass 240k | Acc/Dec. 10/15 | Pitch 50 | Yaw 50 | Roll | Weapons 4/2
As you might see, an A-wing is less maneuverable than a Tie Adv. and there are advantages for both sides. Rebels got better mass, Imperials better maneuverability.
A-Wing: Mass 65k | Acc./Dec. 40/60 | Pitch 250 | Yaw 250 | Roll 125 | Weapons 1/1
Tie Adv: Mass 65k | Acc/Dec. 40/60 | Pitch 300 | Yaw 300 | Roll 150 | Weapons 2/1
X-Wing: Mass 100k | Acc/Dec. 25/30 | Pitch 300 | Yaw 200 | Roll 150 | Weapons 3/1
Tie Opp: Mass 150k | Acc/Dec. 35/35 | Pitch 100 | Pitch 100 | Roll 50 | Weapons 2/3
B-Wing: Mass 240k | Acc/Dec. 10/15 | Pitch 50 | Yaw 50 | Roll | Weapons 4/2
As you might see, an A-wing is less maneuverable than a Tie Adv. and there are advantages for both sides. Rebels got better mass, Imperials better maneuverability.
Message Edited by Wili on 11-16-2004 03:35 PM
imodi
Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:49 am
#29
without flaming too much. If u can't beat an A-wing, then buy a faster ship or learn how from the various helpful posts.
calling to nerf teh A wing is just pathetic. screams of "i can't do it, its not fair, make it easier....." learn how to attack it. or buy better suited equipment. there are a lots of people here that have given there time to offer their pearls of wisdom, it can be done, just because some people can't is no reason to start nerfing things again.
The A wing has little defence or offece compared to other craft, its ONLY advantage is speed and and turn rate.
sry but this type of attitude has systematically corupted the ground game, keeping devs busy nerfing things, instead of fixing things that just don't work.
imodi
Fry-
Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:12 am
#30
Well, the AI sucks, completly, the recent publish has made it even worse, got that 920 speed engine and fighting an equal tier enemy is hardly possible now as they are even faster now (of course, it hasn't mentioned in the patch notes) so its nearly impossible to trap fast ships (A-Wing as example).
This sort of made it for me, all these patches that just bring more crap into the game... its not the game I want to continue paying 15 EUR for anymore, it just looks like a game made by amateurs, not professionals.
This sort of made it for me, all these patches that just bring more crap into the game... its not the game I want to continue paying 15 EUR for anymore, it just looks like a game made by amateurs, not professionals.
Ducimus
Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:24 am
#31
You know what i find amusing about this post?
TOdays patch. The TIE AI has been changed dramtically. All they do now, is hit and run. And their so damn fast, my A wing with a 92 speed engine can barely (sometimes not at all) keep up with them to tail them.
So what we have now, is a series of head on engagements. Tie fighter swoops in, hits, runs away out of your gun range very fast so by the time you circle around, you barely have an opportunity to fire. Not to mention the fighters will break off and do this in two different directions at once.
I read this thread the other day, and todays AI change reminded me of it.
Soooo, if the A wing is so annoying and needs to be nerfed (mind you its doing what it was meant to do), can we not also call for a TIE fighter nerf based on the same logic? (also now doing what they are meant to do)
If this whine by the orginal poster had an substance to it in the past, well, its no longer valid as of today
TOdays patch. The TIE AI has been changed dramtically. All they do now, is hit and run. And their so damn fast, my A wing with a 92 speed engine can barely (sometimes not at all) keep up with them to tail them.
So what we have now, is a series of head on engagements. Tie fighter swoops in, hits, runs away out of your gun range very fast so by the time you circle around, you barely have an opportunity to fire. Not to mention the fighters will break off and do this in two different directions at once.
I read this thread the other day, and todays AI change reminded me of it.
Soooo, if the A wing is so annoying and needs to be nerfed (mind you its doing what it was meant to do), can we not also call for a TIE fighter nerf based on the same logic? (also now doing what they are meant to do)
If this whine by the orginal poster had an substance to it in the past, well, its no longer valid as of today
mkummer
Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:37 am
#32
I am 4443 imp now and the best a-wings I saw so far have been the tier 5 in kessel. If I say on the rebel side what I enjoy most to kill it is for sure: B-Wing, Y-Wing, X-Wing, Z-45 and the A-wing comes last. ButI dont have the feeling they are to hard to kill. It takes longer, but they also dont do so much damage. A B-Wing is very slow and easy to kill, but if he gets on you at the wrong moment It can be over very fast, I feel that A-Wings are never realy dangerous just harder to kill.
Insidius
Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:06 am
#33
Does your complaining ever cease? Every post I've seen authored by you is just a whine fest.
I'm sure you've heard dozens of allusions to your name in comparison, so I'll spare you.
Give it a rest already.
I'm sure you've heard dozens of allusions to your name in comparison, so I'll spare you.
Give it a rest already.
Vegitaa
Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:51 am
#34
Solo'ed a boat-load of Tier5 AWings in Kessel last night in my tier3 TIE Intercepter with no armour or boosters. (due to mass used by my lvl 7 gun) I don't see a problem here.
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