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Thread: How to make Capital ships playable

RazaelDemron
Sat May 22, 2004 1:13 pm
#27






RebelKangaroo wrote:





Ryecrash wrote:
What I would like (thanks to info from others here) is to allow 1 capital ship per person, limit the size of the capital ship to something small (Corellia Corvette would be the maximum size), and make it immoble (just like faction HQs). A schematic for it would be obtained from a faction recruiter with faction points or from a criminal (at locations like Jabba's palace) for cash. These schematics could then be taken to a shipwright to be build.





I'm sorry (no flame meant on you here ) but if they made a ship immobile, wouldn't that defeat the purpose? The point of all of those capital ships was for the transportation and defense of armies to different planets as well as actual combat between other ships. So making one immobile just doesn't make sense in my mind. Besides, it would be really cool to get every Imperial and rebel on you server together for one huge fleet battle!





Every Imperial and Rebel on the server might be enough for two capital ships.



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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 1:16 pm
#28

it should def not be immoble, a capital ship is and always will be an attack ship makeing it immoble would deplete its purpose and besides space is supposed to be completely dif from ground makeing it completely like an hq would make it just that... an HQ in space, as is HQs are just something to give us a reason to actually do something in pvp... (ex: hey what do you wanna do... lets destroy that hq...ok)... however a capital ship would be mroe interesting as 2 could be up against each other on 2 sides of a sector, the side doing the best would slowly move their ship up and eventually one will be destroyed or one will run, this is alot truer to war and star wars then an immoble ship



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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 1:20 pm
#29

it would be to dificult to do it with launch but they can do it, and they said they will eventually do it once they think of a way to, well i posted this (a way to). put some faith into them



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Numariah
Sat May 22, 2004 1:20 pm
#30

i wasnt trash talking, merely stating the obvious reasont that player capitol ships will not exhist, i wish i were otherwise becuase id love to be on one



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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 1:21 pm
#31

well then read the reasons to why it can be done iv posted many it seems for the most part you are worried about checks, iv posted many of thoughs



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RazaelDemron
Sat May 22, 2004 1:27 pm
#32


Capital Ships > Space HQs


They take a far larger crew. And they are far harder to balance. As well as program, design the interiors, populate... oh, and give AI for the crew and ship, too.

Message Edited by RazaelDemron on 05-22-2004 01:28 PM



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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 1:32 pm
#33

i agree with you razael, and that is why i dont expect this to happen with laucnh, i think this would take its own publish to do, giveing the devs much more time to do this and not delaying the expansion



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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 1:40 pm
#34


btw for the people who are saying its too hard, dont you think adding a twichted style game to a fully RPG game is hard in itself, prob alot harder then adding a capital ship...if they are pulling this off (which no one has b4) whats to stop them from makeing capital ships...just a thought... btw so i stop getting bugged for me saying "its simple" ill edit it out


Message Edited by Spiike_Spiegel on 05-22-2004 01:45 PM



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LAR
Sat May 22, 2004 1:57 pm
#35






Spiike_Spiegel wrote:


btw for the people who are saying its too hard, dont you think adding a twichted style game to a fully RPG game is hard in itself, prob alot harder then adding a capital ship...if they are pulling this off (which no one has b4) whats to stop them from makeing capital ships...just a thought... btw so i stop getting bugged for me saying "its simple" ill edit it out



Message Edited by Spiike_Spiegel on 05-22-2004 01:45 PM






SOE already has two games which are MMP "twitch games" Planetside and it's father Tanarus. I'd be surprised if parts ofthe code from those games isn't being used in the expansion. So in essence JtL is the 3rd generation of SOE's MMP twitch engine.


What I read into the problems they stated with Capital ships is that it takes a while to model both the outside and insides of the ships, and that's where the major delay was. Don't be surprised, if/when player owned capital ships are ready,if they're limited to Nebulon-B Class Frigate sized ships and smaller.


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LAR




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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 2:45 pm
#36

i agree 100% w/ u lar what i meant though was its hard to put the two together





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Thunderchild145
Sat May 22, 2004 4:12 pm
#37



Eudaemon3 wrote:
I think PA's should be allowed capital ship size by PA population. For example...a guild with 25 players allowed a Star Destroyer, while a guild with 50 players is allowed a Super Star Destroyer. There should also be a limit to the number of capital ships a guild...only a couple. And capital ships should be for PA's only.
Now as for the inside of the ship...several controllable turrets like you said, cabins acting as mini houses for each crew member that you can furnish, and a docking bay where players could call their ships and go out into space. Of course there would be your medical and cloning centers and cantinas. Perhaps some ships would be able to dock damaged ships and repair them. Maybe some NPC troopers or starfighters as well.





Ummm.. no. Firstly SSDs should NOT be player controlled. Period. They kick butt, yes. But it would totally out of continuity to have every PA with 50+ members running around in one. Now an ISD is believable for about a PA with 75-100 people. No less.



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Pikachu91
Sat May 22, 2004 4:15 pm
#38

it should only be Victory class Star Destroyers, theyre old. Theyre capital ships. Theyre small, and take less men to man. But, im agaisnt capital ships for players only.






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Spiike_Spiegel
Sat May 22, 2004 4:27 pm
#39

aye, only small capital ships should be playable



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