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Thread: Master level missions: a SOLUTION to make everyone happy.

RedVenom400
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:30 pm
#339






Slarus wrote:
the you need to play the sims on line


Can I pilot an X wing there? Or become a Jedi?






if you become a jedi in mmorpg you will be"gasp" forced to pvp by other bh and but you can always play knights of the old republic or jedi academy and kill mindless npces


plus whats the point of driving an xwing or a being a jedi if you dont want to fight for your cause its like walking around with a m16 on iraq but telling the guerila that you dont want to be shot at because is not fair ...



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MajorReb
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:32 pm
#340


I wouldnt mind having to PvP, in fact Imost likely would, just not how it is now. Needs some fixes. Damage reduction, for example, and another PvPzone that doesnt require me to pay xp for permission toenter a desolate stretch of nothing.

Message Edited by MajorReb on 11-10-2004 09:32 PM



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ccrunner84
Wed Nov 10, 2004 7:34 pm
#341

I would just put the 60sec timer out in Kessel, create more HS points.. Don't just totally change this area of space.



VoodooFX
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KaptainKrude
Wed Nov 10, 2004 8:38 pm
#342

Really, the way this team has shoved PvP into the corner and kicked the crap out of it since beta is shameful... they should've just offered an honest vision andpresented this asthe PvP UNfriendly game that it is.




NTyekanik CorrinoN
New Dawn City
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MageMirage
Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:05 pm
#343

"A solution to make everyone happy."


LOL, inthis game? happy? What are you on and where can I get some?


I like the idea, but all the hyperspace campers will hate it.




Mirage Elcon
Imperial Captain
~Master Swordsman~
Dextrix
Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:57 pm
#344







RedVenom400 wrote:





Slarus wrote:
the you need to play the sims on line


Can I pilot an X wing there? Or become a Jedi?






if you become a jedi in mmorpg you will be"gasp" forced to pvp by other bh and but you can always play knights of the old republic or jedi academy and kill mindless npces


plus whats the point of driving an xwing or a being a jedi if you dont want to fight for your cause its like walking around with a m16 on iraq but telling the guerila that you dont want to be shot at because is not fair ...







Ehem..


Slarus you've been served...Lmao


Do you just like to see yuor own post's? That blood red dont show up too well on black btw.


Yes I PvP'd for my master box. I got killed twice in the prosess. But I brought my Squadron just like the Admiral told me to.


So far as skill goes, I made it so fast because this game is too easy already genious.


Just what we needed another proffesion that takes a casual plyer 2 weeks to master.







Dex Fay'Scatha
{Leader of Rua Dona }
\ Rua Ardan ~ Dantooine /
captenjonny
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:04 am
#345

Look at what SOE is planning for CB. Wheather we like it or not SWG/JTL is going PvP. Hig level content is going to take months of grinding to open

The new SOE mantra:

Grinding is fun.
Getting killed is fun.
EVERYTHING MEANINGFUL SHOULD BE GROUPED!
We don't need new content, we need to make existing content harder.



Captain Jonny
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:10 am
#346



if you become a jedi in mmorpg you will be"gasp" forced to pvp by other bh and but you can always play knights of the old republic or jedi academy and kill mindless npces


Well guess you haven't read my posts, but that;s ok.



plus whats the point of driving an xwing or a being a jedi if you dont want to fight for your cause its like walking around with a m16 on iraq but telling the guerila that you dont want to be shot at because is not fair ...


Well I fight the Empire in my little X wing that's what I do. PvP is not the only option in this game, didnt you know that? Oh yeah the brain damage, sorry.
Slarus
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:13 am
#347


Ehem..


Slarus you've been served...Lmao


Isn't that cute, your clueless


Do you just like to see yuor own post's? That blood red dont show up too well on black btw.


Whatever floats your boat


Yes I PvP'd for my master box. I got killed twice in the prosess. But I brought my Squadron just like the Admiral told me to.


So far as skill goes, I made it so fast because this game is too easy already genious.


Just what we needed another proffesion that takes a casual plyer 2 weeks to master.


Oh wow sarcasm.

NightGun
Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:07 am
#348

AHHHHHHHHHHH Yet another time were things seem to be moving to fast to fix a problem that some players have caused.


Is their a problem in Kessel -Yes

Is the solution to just remove the whole concept of Kessel = (If you are SOE yes) If you are a responsible fan of the game no


I agree their is an issue and in fact think their are many issue but lets not destroy aspects of the game just because they don't work exactly as planned. This is now being tested in a large enviorment and it has been discovered that it needs tweaking Tweak Please don't destroy.


I would suggest

First - Possibly move the Master mission it does seem a little harsh to force people into something they don't like just to master a profession

Second - Randomize the hyper jump points to make it much harder for people to sit and camp them.

Third - Anyalyze the Combat damage numbers and such to determine if adjustments are needed on such.


I have not yet been to Kessel although since I know it is disappering I may try to make the run before Tuesday. I do however love the concept of having a completly Free for all zone and hey some increased or better loot would be a nice reward although I could live without even that. I like the concept of having a contested zone of space where I can shoot literally just anyone I want and have to watch my own back since anyone can shoot back (yes I am Smugglers Alliance).



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riotcontrol
Thu Nov 11, 2004 1:53 am
#349


Thunderheart wrote: People with hot boxes have the advantage over PvE players with "not cutting edge" computers and players are getting killed during load times and really, no one likes to get camped, regardless of playstyle. I've talked to a lot of players who are just "regular players" and having a tough time with it.

As far as splitting it into two different types of missions, I dont think that will happen, but we are considering an alternate advancement for the PvP missions. Nothing in stone yet. We are just working on accomodating players who are just trying to get their master box.






What about accomodating players who want to PvP as, for example, a Hutt Privateer pilot (in other words, a pirate) in a really great space zone like Kessel, who are, in your new system, completely unable to do so? Taking content from players is not a very good idea.

The only fair solution to this 'problem' would be to move Master Pilot missions from Kessel and leave Kessel for what it is - the only space zone where PvP works in a 'starwarsy' way.



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Cutedge
Thu Nov 11, 2004 3:13 am
#350






GreatWarrior wrote:


Why bother to change it? Its not like we'll see a lot of PvP now that Kessel will become another general space sector.




So is it safe to say that no one is going to go to Deep Space? No one cares about that at all?


I've told you, I didnt' want Kessel to go non-pvp. If anything I wanted the damage reduction and that was it. But hey, we're getting what we're getting.


Here's an idea, go pvp-overt every time you go to space. Stay pvp-overt at all times. Convince others to do the same. Not only will you get fp, maybe you'll run across other players who are pvp-overt. If there's as many PVPers as everyone claims, you'll find people to fight all over the place, and they won't be in a position where you're just killing them and making part of the game impossible. I go overt when i run duty. I've said this. Not once have I seen an overt enemy faction player.





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Diorchas
Thu Nov 11, 2004 5:24 am
#351

Why is it that the PvP hounds equate PvP with the GCW?


Last time I checked I was knocking out TIE Fighters, Interceptors, Aggressors, etc. They just didn't have self-esteem-challenged kids piloting them.
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