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EliTekrew
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:11 pm
#287

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious, you guys. I know this must get redundant for you, having to read this over and over again.


I think I have to accept that creating a system based on the movies, you know, the subject matter for the entire **edit**ing game wouldn't be plausible as a business decision. And that's what this is all about, in the end, isn't it? Business.




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Irundil
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:15 pm
#288

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Soulforger
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:15 pm
#289

Well, they wanted a more in depth system, but couldn't incorporate it, so they did professions. They then dropped hints because people weren't getting through the professions as quickly as they had hoped.


As for who has Jedi... Once a system is knows, powergamers will ALWAYS complete it first. Holo made a post about this; if they based Jedi off of other criteria, then everyone could get it, but powergamers would get it that much faster. That doesn't mean that all Jedi are grinders, etc (although look at the trees - after a little tooling around, there's nothing to do but grind ). Just be happy we know what it takes to unlock, and hope that you won't have to master too much to get it .




-Accari (Rebel Warrant Officer II)

Master TKA
2000 Commando

Mastered: Medic, Combat Medic, Pistoleer, Doctor, Dancer (Holo 1), Tailor (Holo 2, Silent), Entertainer, Artisan, Scout, Creature Handler, Teras Kasi Artist, Ranger, Marksman

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Twentytolife
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:17 pm
#290

I would have been nice if there was some Jedi only content....


Baselinius
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:29 pm
#291

It's saddening that the jedi forum population is 80% holocron profession related, 15% complaining, 5% satisfied people (if that).


Most of the time, you can't satisfy one group (or profession)in this game without taking from another.


I give the devs credit. Ofcourse the system isn't perfect, and there's much room for improvement,but it's **edit** good, or else all of you who complain about jedi sucking wouldn't still be playing. I for one couldn't think of many better ways to give everyone an oppurtunity to get a FSCS, and/or a better way for it to take time to level jedi. With the current system, EVERYONE CAN GET A SLOT, but it takes much time and patience (except maybe for those SUPER LUCKY 2% that had to do 5 or 6 professions total and unlocked).


Jedi is time consuming. It has to be, or else you'll have a ton of jedi masters running around and that would be totally unacceptable to the story and total chaos. This isn't in the time of the republic. You could do something you really think is funa million times over, it will become boring quick. But, the fact is, there will always be powergamers who contribute a lot of time to gaming, and they have to account for those people, they have to make goals more difficult.


Enjoy the game, and may the force be with you. biwan:




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Dark-Lords
Prances
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:33 pm
#292

I would much rather play for a year, knowing everything I did (or didn't do) somehow brought me along the path somehow... but I understand the inherent difficulty in programming something like this. The constant flow of information would really make server/client traffic horrendous, and no doubt kill the servers or severly limit the number ofplayers per server, but...


Simply grinding profs makes 99% of this game completely meaningless.


Social Interaction
Healing
Missions
Faction
POI
Rare Spawns
Artifacts
Deaths
Selling
Buying
Tipping
Helping
Giving
Language
PVP
Quests
Dungeons


So, I feel your disappointment. I expected a little more of a true "Jedi" based system. SWG to me is like a really nicely wrapped package. For all appearances, it looks to contain something really nice... but instead, you find a CDEF. Sure, you can use the CDEF, but...


"If you will not join Us, Young SkyWalker, then you...will...DIE! But first, please change my hairstyle?"




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Josth
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:34 pm
#293

Could have, would have, THEY didnt. get over it.



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GnomeAd
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:39 pm
#294

Ok...first the theory. If the FSCS are tied to the account, then are different requirements generated for every toon, or just the first time you make one and then carried over to all others. For instance, I made a Medic on Bloodfin as my first character on the first day. I have since deleted him and have 4 others now. My theory is that all the requirements for all the toons are the same. The reason that each one gets different responses from a holo is that they each are closer to differentmasters. For instance one has more crafting XP so he gets Architect when he uses his holo, but the other has more combat XP so he gets Squad Leader first, even though the first will need SL as well, he was closer to Arch so that's what the holo gave him. He would get SL from his 2nd or 3rd holo and vice versa.


Ok, so why the question and why should you care. If this is true then maybe you don't need to master all the professions with one character. Maybe you can master Artisan with your Shadowfire toon and then master BH with the one you have on Ahazi and still get "credit" for it. The FSCS would just be generated on the server that mastered the last required profession.


How to test it: Anyone who has had their holo go silent and has not yetgot their FSCScould use one of their shiny new christmas holos on their toonfrom another server. If it's silent, then this theory is correct. If it gives you a profession, then it's not.


Any takers?

Quadork
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:46 pm
#295

OMG you are right!!!!







This is a crackpot theory.




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AT-AT013
Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:56 pm
#296

Hey look at that... 100 units of coal.
drunknmunky718
Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:24 pm
#297

u know the deal guys ehhe, what should be thesecret profession


- silent after 3rd holo


mastered(in order):


marksman


architect


scout(jedi holo)


squad leader(sith holo)


medic


doctor


entertainer


image designer(sith holo)


artisan


i have my only suspicions on what i thinkt it could possibly be but im interested in hearing what you fine guys and gals have to say =D




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The point is, ladies and gentleman, is that "bots" -- for lack of a better word -- are good. Bots are right. Bots work. Bots clarify, cut through, and capture the essence of the SWG spirit. Bots, in all of their forms -- bots for crafting, for killing thugs, for buffing, healing -- have marked the upward surge of mankind and other races. And bots -- you mark my words -- will not only save SWG, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the Empire.
drunknmunky718
Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:46 pm
#298

/bump com'n guys plz help me out too with ur wisdom like u do with other ppl =D



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The point is, ladies and gentleman, is that "bots" -- for lack of a better word -- are good. Bots are right. Bots work. Bots clarify, cut through, and capture the essence of the SWG spirit. Bots, in all of their forms -- bots for crafting, for killing thugs, for buffing, healing -- have marked the upward surge of mankind and other races. And bots -- you mark my words -- will not only save SWG, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the Empire.
Ki_GonAmedda
Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:23 pm
#299

Message Edited by Ki_GonAmedda on 08-12-2004 01:51 AM



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