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Clackdor wrote:

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Shin_Shodei wrote:
Does this mean.. that if i see a pilot in a A-wing or a Y-wing.. i can't attack them becouse they didn't declaire themselves overt before they left the planet? and if they attack a Npc Tie Fighter i can't Attack them for doing that..? How is this suppost to continue the Galactic civil war... maybe i read Th's post wrong or somthing?

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This is the part I have a problem with. Ok, people can fly around in any ship and can conceivably be unknown faction, but attacking NPC Faction ships and having nothing to be able to do about it is wrong.

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I think you're right. it would seem you could safely assume people are neutral because you will never really know. I wouldn't mind getting a TEF in space at least there the PVP is presumably better. But if you don't like it go overt all the time...its not like all of us run around looking for TEF'ed players to kill now days hell PVP is like extinct at this point. At any rate JTLS is gonna be fun TEF Or no TEF. SO i say we get used to it and if we find that having TEF's in space would improve its immersion then we should all band together and petition for TEF's.

-Truwen

Umm, you might want to re-read whatever it is you read.

Some ships that you fly in the rebel or imperial trees withh make you overt.

For example.


Covert Imperial goes to starport and flies off in his tie fighter. he will be overt in space.

covert rebel goes to starport and flies off in his A-Wing. He will be overt in space.


I have not seen the full list, and I doubt one has been made public on which faction ships will amke you overt.

I also hear rumors that the privateer line may allow the use of X and Y wings.

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Shin_Shodei wrote:
Does this mean.. that if i see a pilot in a A-wing or a Y-wing.. i can't attack them becouse they didn't declaire themselves overt before they left the planet? and if they attack a Npc Tie Fighter i can't Attack them for doing that..? How is this suppost to continue the Galactic civil war... maybe i read Th's post wrong or somthing?

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#1 Why does everyone start a new thread about the same subject?

#2 From the way I took it, TEFs will work like they do on the ground. Covert Rebel/Imperials are covert no matter what craft they are flying until they attack an NPC of the opposite faction. Then they gain a TEF where anyone of the opposite faction can attack and kill them.

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#3 Covert Rebels/Imps can fly a non factioned ship and not be open to PvP and participate in PvE content without fear of being ganked But flying a factioned ship would give you a permanent TEF while in the Factioned craft.

Personally I like #3 but I can live with #2.

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Shin_Shodei wrote:
... how does it sound fair? space is gona be mainly pve with optional pvp. this whole time they've been preaching pvp with optional pve.. This is a big change..

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I've never seen a post from the devs that said "The focus of JTL is for factional PvP. PvE is an afterthought." In fact, the entire progression of skills in JTL is quest-based, hence PvE. There are special areas set aside for PvP.

Forgot what the hell I was gonna say.

Message Edited by WookieIsshe on 08-14-2004 07:56 AM

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SanRa_Ledav wrote: Umm, you might want to re-read whatever it is you read. Some ships that you fly in the rebel or imperial trees withh make you overt. For example. Covert Imperial goes to starport and flies off in his tie fighter. he will be overt in space. covert rebel goes to starport and flies off in his A-Wing. He will be overt in space. I have not seen the full list, and I doubt one has been made public on which faction ships will amke you overt. I also hear rumors that the privateer line may allow the use of X and Y wings.

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I thought this too until the recent post by TH. What it appears is happening is that these ships make you overt towards NPCs but not other Players. A small, but important difference.

Later,
LAR

Message Edited by LAR on 08-14-2004 11:57 AM

Message Edited by xWarlordx on 06-27-2005 06:16 PM

you write with a pen.

if you read correctly, then you read right.

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masselin wrote:

you write with a pen.

if you read correctly, then you read right.

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lol fixed, been a long day.