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CommTampers
Mon Apr 04, 2005 3:18 pm
#14
SickSix wrote:
Coran_Sienar wrote:
That's your reward engine. It's not random loot.
oh.....well then your all right! LOOT SYSTEM SUCKS! lol
but i dont' understand one thing.....
I"m now 3333 imp pilot right? So i get the Interceptor (50kmass) and Bomber(189kmass) however, i can't even but good lvl6, not to mention lvl7, parts in my Interceptor!!! what's the point of getting access to parts you cant even use on the supposed equal level ship? I have to put any good parts in my bomber, which no matter how good the engine, will continue to fly like a boat!
That's what POB ships are for. Where else can I put the heavyweights? They'd sink my A-wing.
Too bad that I haven't found more of those calibur parts for several months.
SickSix
Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:27 pm
#15
ok, apparently they did not fix shipwrights still.
I went looking for capacitors on my server, using the bazaar vendor search and i searched the ENTIRE galaxie.
and all i found, was total and utter crap for crafted capacitors.
the only good capacitor i saw, was a near exact copy of one i looted (lvl8 47regen, like 1000cap), and it was being sold for 2.5million credits.
the lvl9 caps i saw (crafted) were a complete JOKE.
so apparently there is still good loot out there. just not in the high-end quadrants like it should be. because kessle is a JOKE for loot.
Washell
Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:01 am
#16
CommTampers wrote:
The other day I looted the biggest joke: a level 8 reactor with 15K mass and 2K power.
I wish I looted that one. I've got a 40k mass, 30kpower L8 reactor lying around 'till I do.
Ducimus
Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:26 pm
#17
Heh, Sw's.. i could give less than a **** about SW's. Most of them don't know what a pilot wants and/or overcharges. Got sick and tired of seeing chassis everywhere. Its why i mastered the damn profession myself. (*points to sig*)
As for loot, havent really noticed much honestly, i have certain parts that i save, im an REing junky. What i have noticed though is what is seems like a reduction in L10 cannon drops. they were rare before, but now they seem REALLY rare.. im wondering if they still drop acutally. What worries me is if they'll ever nerf L2 and L4 capcitor drops, those things are my bread and butter when configuring ships.
As for loot, havent really noticed much honestly, i have certain parts that i save, im an REing junky. What i have noticed though is what is seems like a reduction in L10 cannon drops. they were rare before, but now they seem REALLY rare.. im wondering if they still drop acutally. What worries me is if they'll ever nerf L2 and L4 capcitor drops, those things are my bread and butter when configuring ships.
CommTampers
Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:18 pm
#18
Once in a blue moon, I get the level 6 cap drop. Those are the only good loots. A few months ago when I was grinding teir 4, I found a 54 capacitor. Apparently, they the upper level drops used to include recharge 70 capacitors when I was a JTL noob one month into its release. Since then, I have yet to loot a cannon above level 8. I've been ace for almost 2 months. Even in the weapons, there is no diversity in stats; all looted guns are slow firing. Why aren't their any rapid firing loot guns? I've seen orange, purple and yellow beams; why can't we change gun color aside from red, blue and green?
The frustration is unbearabe...
DEVS, why do all the components suck?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Ducimus
Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:39 pm
#19
Very the mobs that you kill when part farming. Certain component's, or even name brands seem to drop from specpfic mobs.
I strongly suspect various mobs have differing loot tables. I loot lots of good compoents. Looted three L8' cannons this morning infact.
I strongly suspect various mobs have differing loot tables. I loot lots of good compoents. Looted three L8' cannons this morning infact.
CommTampers
Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:25 pm
#20
Then tell us where you find the best loot. Waypoints please. I still doubt that there is any loot with stats that have actually remained constant since JTL launch.
Ducimus
Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:05 pm
#21
Its not where you farm that matters, so much as what you farm.
I farm in 3 different places as an imp pilot.
1. Black epislon teir 4 duty missions (havent run these in awhile, and ironically havent looted any L10 cannons since i stopped running them.. Hmmmmmm)
2. Rori station destroy mission. Tier 3 rebel ships. Buddies of mine have given it the name "Ships n chips". Mission payout is the same as a teir 4, they die fast, and you loot lots of parts, many of which i end up saving.
3. Deepspace. Teir 5 rebel ships. I kill just about everything except A wings and vettes (both take too much time).
On a side note, rori station also has a rebel pilot version of "Ships and chips". teir 3 Ties mainly, Looted alot of sinear systems parts (same with crimson phonix teir 4 duty). Looted a L6 engine at 8500 mass from rori station mission though. Very tasty.
One of the better ones i think is also the RSF teir 4 for BS.
I farm in 3 different places as an imp pilot.
1. Black epislon teir 4 duty missions (havent run these in awhile, and ironically havent looted any L10 cannons since i stopped running them.. Hmmmmmm)
2. Rori station destroy mission. Tier 3 rebel ships. Buddies of mine have given it the name "Ships n chips". Mission payout is the same as a teir 4, they die fast, and you loot lots of parts, many of which i end up saving.
3. Deepspace. Teir 5 rebel ships. I kill just about everything except A wings and vettes (both take too much time).
On a side note, rori station also has a rebel pilot version of "Ships and chips". teir 3 Ties mainly, Looted alot of sinear systems parts (same with crimson phonix teir 4 duty). Looted a L6 engine at 8500 mass from rori station mission though. Very tasty.
One of the better ones i think is also the RSF teir 4 for BS.
SickSix
Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:17 pm
#22
well i've been spending a lot of time in Kessle and i don't loot much at all. BUT
i did loot two lvl8 caps that, while being heavy, seem pretty darn good to me!. one has a 47regen, the other has i think 48.2 and 1000energy cap. i'll be putting the latter in my bomber tomorrow.
DreanGrott
Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:22 am
#23
CommTampers wrote:
In the subject of mass, that is why I still have my Nova; I use parts that are have been nerfed to a mass too high for anything else. It still runs like a piece of junk. The other day I looted the biggest joke: a level 8 reactor with 15K mass and 2K power. It's nearly inverse of the reactor on my A-wing. I use a Kuat custom LX something, level 2with 2K mass and 12K power, post-nerf. None of the parts in my A-wing are above level 7.
I also have a question for other veteran pilots: If I surrender pilot, will I get another reward engine for completing upper tiers over again?
I would also like to re-itterate an earlier point of mine. I actively think that the devs should bring back old loot AND make crafted parts on par with the loot stats. An awsome idea would be to let shipwrights disassemble looted components, permanently adding these stat upgrades to the shipwright's data pad. They should also let us craft even leveled parts besides ordnance. To say that loot gets the final word at level 10 is one BIG HUGE SPIT IN THE FACE to shipwrights. For example, if Idisassemble a level 6 capacitor with 45 for recharge, from then on, all level 6 capacitors that I build will automatically have a recharge rate starting at 45. That concept would inter-twine shipwrighting and looting to a great harmony. Loot would be awsome, but shipwrights could use it to their advantage and build parts guaranteed better than loot. What to you think of that?
Great idea. This kinda like REing but better. Cool idea.
Washell
Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:51 am
#24
That at some pointone sw is going be the best cap maker, an other will be doing engines and so on. Newbie sw's will have a really tough time getting a business started.
CommTampers wrote:
For example, if Idisassemble a level 6 capacitor with 45 for recharge, from then on, all level 6 capacitors that I build will automatically have a recharge rate starting at 45. That concept would inter-twine shipwrighting and looting to a great harmony. Loot would be awsome, but shipwrights could use it to their advantage and build parts guaranteed better than loot. What to you think of that?
CommTampers
Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:52 am
#25
There needs to be more incentive to stay master shipwright. Currently, my only motivation is to outfit my own stuff. New shipwrights could be able to "learn" the loot that they get as theygrind pilot. This system could work like RE levels. The higher the skill, the higher level parts that can be "learned."Please excuse my language from a few posts ago; it's my frustration with [impotent] parts that must be pacified.
I didn't mean that you could take the learned mass from a level 1 cap and put it in a level 10 cap. These stats are meant to be kept in their level. If they are already pilot, they should have some starter loot to get started with. Any level looted capacitor is guaranteed to be better than the crafted cap of that level.
What are the best opponents that rebels and/or corsec can shoot up for relatively ok post-nerf loot? I only wish that I had quickly ground pilot right away after launch. That way I may have actually been able to find some cool parts. I might consider myself lucky in contrast to our current pilot grinders. They don't have any hope of a good spectrum of good parts. I at least had some second generation parts. Apparently these parts only drop in Kessel or deep space now.
Ghost-Raven
Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:07 am
#26
either no loot or wierd loot - i looted a lvl 8 reactor with generation of 58K- where do i get the starship to put this in