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Thread: Why YOU should WAIT a year to buy JTL. Search your feelings. You know it to be true...

nolan007
Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:41 pm
#14






Mystikal26 wrote:




And here we are. More than a year after the initial launch and there are still bugs that have not been fixed. One example is Heavy weapons tapes and attachments. But, that list goes on and on and on......... And this is with the ground game.

Someones business model put the expansion above fixing the game that already exisited. I grow tired and weary of them saying that everything will be fixed or done after JTL launch.

MAYBE they will implement expansions to the expansion.

MAYBE they will fix the existing ground game. And MAYBE just MAYBE by then no one will be around to notice.

Ricin Olo (Master Commando)





Well said Mystikal26!


The only reason I made posts (in the past) was to makethe game great or better.I'm not a fanboi. I just want the game to be great. Iwant the best for SWG (I'm sure we all do)... maybe it will come one day, and then again... maybe it won't.





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Darkmaw
Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:50 pm
#15






nolan007 wrote:




  • A couple of new planets to explore and live-in exclusively for the JTL folks. I suggested Hoth and Bespin.








I've seen alarge range of gripes and whines about JTL... some of which I may agree with, some I do not. Either way everyone has a opinion and I'm fine with that. I personally enjoyed my beta time and look forward to funand more additions down the road. Every MMORPG has problems and are constantly being patched and upgraded.


I just have to say this made me laugh.

Not the bit about new planets...that will be cool and Im sure its in the works. Why would you want to exclude or cut off a world of players? Because you like to fly?


Also why do people have to put cancelled account in there sig? Or even post that they are quitting?


Message Edited by Darkmaw on 10-25-2004 06:52 PM

NuclearDevil
Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:54 pm
#16





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Just a quick question, why do you bother to post this? You'll be gone in 2 days.



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nolan007
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:06 pm
#17






NuclearDevil wrote:


Just a quick question, why do you bother to post this? You'll be gone in 2 days.





I answered why I post earlier in this thread.

Iflong standing issues and bugsare fixed,places are added to build community in space, combat revamphas occurred, and lots ofStar Warsy touches have been added... Imightreturn. However, if no one brings up these issues up now (such as in my original post)... the issueswill never be fixed.





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Nicro
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:06 pm
#18

FFXI if fun if you dont like pvping (very little pvp in that game) i play this and that when im in diffrent moods thats much more group oridented (+ lvl 10 need a group for everything) not trying to diss this game but it is really buggy compared to most other mmorpgs.



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Cuality
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:19 pm
#19






Mystikal26 wrote:
I really am disappointed by the game as it stands. Yes, I was in beta. I only played for about 4 hrs total and very much disliked the gameplay of JTL to the point that it was just not fun. I normally don't post on these boards unless there is really something to say. But, I see all of these customers of SOE really looking forward to the expansion and I scratch my head. I wanted this to be the great add-on to the ground game that was going to make the game complete. The one I have been waiting for a year to play. It came up short on all of these things. So, I will pack up my $14.99 a month a leave for awhile. I look to the community for guidance at this point. Which other online game would you recommend? SWG was my first and I have grown attached to the idea of the MMORPG.

Ricin Olo (Master Commando)






first... how can you say the game was horrible after 4 hours of playing? dunno... but in a beta i usually give the devs time to work things out and if after a few weeks its still pretty bad... then my opinion is fixed. Right now... well, they broke it with the AI... but a few days ago, beta was 100 times better than when i started a month or so ago. The game is worth purchasing in my mind and hopefully will be made to expand on... hopefully.


now if you truly do not like the future of SWG and JTL... and want another MMORPG... well, it depends on what you like. If you are into pvp but don't really care for a dynamic quest system nor about insane graphics... try WoW. Its basically a clone of the rest of the MMORPGs out there but they do have some highpoints. If you like PvE, questing, player housing, small group mentality and insane graphics... try EQ2, not to mention they get stuff like dragon and hippogriff mounts. If you really want to gamble on a game that may or may not tank depending on how they package it all... try MxO. If you want a current game that does well and is nice to look at... but lacks pvp but has the best character customization, try CoH. If you are a PvP fanatic and enjoy "ganking" "griefing" and causing massive mischief and mayhem and don't mind a broken game... try Lineage 2.





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Ocoro
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:26 pm
#20


I think that this whole thread is bs. I mean, let's do this: How about i wait for a year, after everyone already has it, so that i can wait to master pilot. That way, no one will help me master because everyone already has. I mean, that's just dumb. There are such things as patches, ya know. I mean new things will be added all the time, i mean not necessarily following the release but sooner or later. I mean major updates will still exist after jtl. Maybe they are working on planets, who knows, but it seems like maybe you should be greatful that the game is having an expansion, as its starting to get semi boring. You shouldn't wait to buy this until more patches come out, you should play and when the come out, they do. that way its more fun.


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Ocoro
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:29 pm
#21

Oh, and Mystikal or however the game is spelled, you must be incredibly dumb in order to have said that the game isn't good after 4 hrs. I mean what can u do in 4 hrs? get a ship? i mean really.


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Mystikal26
Mon Oct 25, 2004 7:30 pm
#22

First, I did not call it "horrible". It was just not fun and I was disappointed. I played 2 hrs when I was put accepted to beta (about a month ago). And 2 hours over the weekend. As I said I have been really looking forward to the expansion since initial launch. I was just so disappointed in the flight dynamics and overall gameplay of JTL that it really did not take long to convince me that I needed a change. Especially with the options being released in the coming weeks. Thanks for the info on the other games I will look into them.

Ricin Olo (Master Commando)
metalmolder
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:20 pm
#23

I think ur just being pessimistic, u can ace ur proffesion, by that time there will probly be some new stuff. If there isn't then i agree, but at this point, don't be so pessimistic.



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Crazyguy111
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:25 pm
#24

I completely agree and I was in beta too. If they offer ANYTHING to do once you master then maybe, but mastering only takes a few days and after that there's nothing better to do up there than down here



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Mystikal26
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:34 pm
#25

They have had more than a year to incorporate some interesting content into the ground game. We have gotten the DWB, Corvette and a lot of attention paid to the Jedis. I'm just saying that I for one will be moving on as I have waited for numerous fixes and JTL did not do it for me. I really did not need more than 4 hrs to realize that. I am kinda a vet I would imagine of the Star Wars flight games. The first I played was Rogue Squadron. I know that JTL was not supposed to be like those games and that it is not what it was based on. However, I figured it was going to be at least close beings it was "twitch" based. The personal attacks like calling someone dumb for thier views shows some character as well.
Jedi2k
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:51 pm
#26






nolan007 wrote:





Why YOU should WAIT a year to buy JTL. Search your feelings. You know it to be true...




What's great in Jump to Lightspeed....



  • Hooded Robes (already available in the ground game)

  • that is because half of the JTL code was pushed into LIVE

  • New Species (will be available in the ground game) The coolest stuff will be released to the ground game (the hooded robes and new species).

  • Sure will be in game to see but to be one you have to get JTL

  • The best "in space" feature of JTL is that you can ride around with friends on a ship. It's like being in a house with your friends. It's a great place to chat; however, that experience gets old after an hour.



  • The art team needs kudos once again! The graphics are beautiful.






Jump to Lightspeed should have included (but, it does NOT include):



  • A couple of new planets to explore and live-in exclusively for the JTL folks. I suggested Hoth and Bespin.


  • Objects in space to explore with your ground characters and your friends, such as:




    • Space stations (should look like the new user tutorial as far as textures and sky roofs, have space mission terminals, cantina, etc.)


    • Imperial Star Destroyers, Large Rebel ships (owned and operated by Imperial & Rebel guilds)


    • New dungeons (the remains of the Star Destroyer?, abandonded ships, asteroid dungeon, etc.) and maybe a hidden planet (moves around in space and has no POI).




Why ride around with your friends on a ship if you can't actually go anywhere new to explore with your ground characters (other than the same ground game planets)?





JTL is Wing Commander with Star Wars models.


Check out this game trailer (from 1996)....


ftp://ftp.ea.com/pub/archive/origin/movies/p2/p2.zip


I highly recommend waiting to buy Jump To Lightspeed. Perhaps in a year, SOE will have something to do in space other than hold down your mouse button.





I don't want to sound harsh... this expansion will be *very* awesome once it has several publishes under its belt.




Message Edited by nolan007 on 10-25-2004 08:30 PM





First of all I don't think a person who will be cancelling his account on Wednesday has any right telling us what to do with the game we still play.



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