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Thread: Why are neutral's given the shaft

tamer_bourne
Fri Dec 24, 2004 9:54 pm
#14

Those who stay on the middle of the wall and don't choose a side deserve no love

even though this thread makes no sense, neutralhelmet is very cool nothing like the ugly imperial helmet and dunelizard is like a awing with 20k more mass


neutral ships sure are ugly though



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Trienco
Sat Dec 25, 2004 5:31 am
#15



tamer_bourne wrote:
Those who stay on the middle of the wall and don't choose a side deserve no love






middle of the wall? i wouldnt call corsec neutral. and even as the "neutral neutrals" i (had to) choose pretty much all sides during my tiers, from jabba to imps to rebels.



even though this thread makes no sense, neutral helmet is very cool nothing like the ugly imperial helmet and dunelizard is like a awing with 20k more mass
neutral ships sure are ugly though





matter of taste, but im thinking about hiding those godawful freelance master jacket and helmet somewhere in a crate and bury it below a ton of other crates. helmet and jacket arent even matching, which is of course quite fitting, after all (and as you noticed) we also got by far the ugliest ships, too. but maybe its just me thinking that they look just too much like generic models that could come straight out of every second space game.

but on the bright side, i think our master mission is definitely a bit easier by getting the first shot and having iff scramble.
Marzuk147
Sat Dec 25, 2004 6:53 am
#16

IMO privateers now have the best ships, if you mean by getting the shaft are the best pilot profession I agree. Our 190k mass Rihkxyrk handles very well for a ship of that mass that has 3 weapon hardpoints, and the Krayt gunship is even better at 210k mass.
Tuscanspeed
Sat Dec 25, 2004 10:50 am
#17






Marzuk147 wrote:
IMO privateers now have the best ships, if you mean by getting the shaft are the best pilot profession I agree. Our 190k mass Rihkxyrk handles very well for a ship of that mass that has 3 weapon hardpoints, and the Krayt gunship is even better at 210k mass.






Exactly, ours (nuetral) arent the prettiest, but they have the best firepower and handling for the mass.


i WAS rebel in space, i'm nuetral now... mutch better ships here.




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Zeon_Zaku
Sat Dec 25, 2004 2:19 pm
#19








VesperFyre wrote:
Hey i just got done doing my 1st master mission and got the UGLIEST jacket i have ever seen so i wanted to bring up some points as to why we are getting shafted unolike the rebs/imps

1. We get ugly helmets and jackets as a reward
What do rewards have to do with having the best profession? Besides, have you seen the Rebel ace jacket? It's hidious... and it makes you look fat.

2. At master we get a multi ship yet no Master fighter or bomber unlike imps and rebs
You do get a master level ship. Ever heard of the "Krayt"? Look it up.

3. Our Privateer Special Ship isnt a privateer ship its multi faction ship
What the hell are you talking about? The YT-1300 is strikely privateer... as is the Krayt.

4. If we were to get a master lvl fighter we have to hope that we dont pay 25million credits for it
Heh... if you pay that much for a Krayt or YT-1300, you must really be a dimwit...

So i ask why do neutrals get such a shaft all we want is to be equal to the other pilots i mean even on the ground we get themeparks but nothing like that of the imps/rebs ahh well i guess thats life huh
So i get shafted by being a BH and a Neutral lol gotta love it










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LRRCP
Sat Dec 25, 2004 3:53 pm
#20


the point is up until a lil while ago all we had to appreciate at master was a ship u needed other peoplel to have fun in or be effective at fighting and a ship that costs millions!!!

Why would a Falcon style ship cost millions??????

it should cost the exact same as all the other master ships as the amount of resources for either B-Wing, Opressor, Decimator, Nova are all exactly the same.

no special resources to be honest at all...

And at 5000k mass you will never use it all so resouces values dont mater as much on it for mass, maybe for the ships chassie but not mass.

Total amount I spent on my master ships... Extractor fee's and 10,000 credits i paid a ship wright to make them with my resources.


KaylBreinhar
Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:03 pm
#21

You get an 85k Tier 1 ship that matches my damn Advanced. Do you have ANY clue what I could do with an extra 20k of mass that YOU take for granted? I only USE 55k of the 65k, and 12.5k of THAT is my weapon. With 85k I could fit my 2816-4698 L10 blaster on my goddamned ADVANCED.

You get the shaft like a rich man b*tching that he had to get REGULAR leather in his new Rolls instead of Corinthian.

Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 12-25-2004 06:07 PM



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KaiaSowaPit
Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:12 pm
#22


Shadine wrote:
Ok, I'm going to try and not offend to much.
First of all Neutrals should get the shaft to an extent. You haven't chosen a side. you float in the middle. Picked on by the empire, no fully accepted by the rebellion.
How would a neutral get a bomber, of any kind? The imperials would blow you outta the sky. Rebels get it because the smuggle them in.
Again you take no risk you get little reward. I do believe you should have options. I'm not against neutrals, but you have to remember your in the middle. Not everyone is going to share "the good stuff" with you.



No offense, but you're pretty naive. There's more to Star Wars than Rebels and Imperials.

Han Solo was neutral. (And before that, Imperial, if you follow the EU.)

Jabba the Hutt, is neutral.

Boba Fett, though later commissioned by Vader, is still neutral.

Unlike the Rebels or Imperials, Privateers work for themselves... particularly the Smuggler's Alliance. They're 100% ALL ABOUT REWARD; they couldn't give a crap about galactic war (paraphrasing Han Solo himself). If they can't buy it, either legitimately or via the black market, you darn well better believe they can and will steal it.


Zeon_Zaku wrote:
Heh... if you pay that much for a Krayt or YT-1300, you must really be a dimwit...


Ouch, not kind. He or she may simply be on a ridiculously over-inflated server (not as if they're so rare given our borked "player-driven" economies).

Lastly, Privateers weren't given the shaft. As a Master Pilot, I'd say we have some of the best ships in the galaxy. Yeah I'd agree our helmet & jacket look retarded... but so do the other factions.





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JediGohan
Sat Dec 25, 2004 4:57 pm
#23

Neutrals are the last people I would have thought to be complaining.


Anyday now I was waiting for someone to ask why the Imperial Oppressor has less mass than a bomber?

Seriously I dont need 3 ords, I dont even use ord, I'd rather they put 1 Ord and put the other 2 ords as weapons.


Neutrals have way more firepower than they should have, us Imperials are shafted big time when it comes to mass.


Neutrals get more variations, albeit the same ship but you still have variations.


Us Imperials have that ugly Decimator that doesnt even give the Imperials justice to the ships we should have- /coughLambda/coughDefender


So I dont want anymore complaining out of the people who shouldnt be




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Shadine
Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:53 am
#24

Ok, I'm going to try and not offend to much.


First of all Neutrals should get the shaft to an extent. You haven't chosen a side. you float in the middle. Picked on by the empire, no fully accepted by the rebellion.


How would a neutral get a bomber, of any kind? The imperials would blow you outta the sky. Rebels get it because the smuggle them in.


Again you take no risk you get little reward. I do believe you should have options. I'm not against neutrals, but you have to remember your in the middle. Not everyone is going to share "the good stuff" with you.
tamer_bourne
Sun Dec 26, 2004 7:50 pm
#25

ok, first the neutrals, now the imps.. its my time now check this out:


WAAAAaaaaaaahhhhhhhh



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timsgta
Sun Dec 26, 2004 9:35 pm
#26

LRRCP wrote:






the point is up until a lil while ago all we had to appreciate at master was a ship u needed other peoplel to have fun in or be effective at fighting and a ship that costs millions!!!

Why would a Falcon style ship cost millions??????

it should cost the exact same as all the other master ships as the amount of resources for either B-Wing, Opressor, Decimator, Nova are all exactly the same.

no special resources to be honest at all...

And at 5000k mass you will never use it all so resouces values dont mater as much on it for mass, maybe for the ships chassie but not mass.

Total amount I spent on my master ships... Extractor fee's and 10,000 credits i paid a ship wright to make them with my resources.





ok first all pepl i wasnt complaining about privateer i was simply pointing out the original intent of th e authors post here, and secondly b4 u take my words lccrp u best know what ur talking about , if ud stopped and noticed the "and'" in my statement then ud see i was talking about the yt and the kse, the kse being the one that costs MILLIONS!!! and furthermore for all the hard headed pepl out here in forum land, the author was merely pointing out the lack of a fighter at master, thats all i ever cared about was the reasoning behind only giving us 2 ships at master , and yes i wanted to fly the yt, i wont lie but thats not the whole reason, mostly i just wanted to do my own thing up there, and i can btw choose to fly my factions flag when i choose just like al u other pepl out there(overt), it doesnt matter to me if u fly rebel imp or nuetral, if ur overt in space then ur flying for ur facction end of story. also i never complained about ship mass, types of ships, blah blah or nething else i just wondered why we only got 2 ships at master while u guys were enjoyimg youre oppressors and bwings, and some may say well the ties only get 1 gun or the adv only gets 2 where it should get 3 well the reason behind this is prolly the same reason u cant paint ur ships for continuity sake(now thats devs words not mine) and why shouldnt a kimo get more mass than ur tie adv. ?? have u even seen a kimo next toan adv.? the kimo is 3 times the size!! in all actuality and in keeping with physical laws , of course the kimo well have more mass!! the rebel ships are the same they are small in comparison. honestly i dont know why i try explaining things to u pepl, u obviously for the most part are under the age of 13 , because ur arguments have no validity at all.


sincerely


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