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Vicotnik
Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:56 pm
#170






LordVader27 wrote:

OK, I'll shoot a question.


What are the 3 Black Sun Fighters?


What are the Two Passenger Ships?


And...


What are the space sectors?


Sorry if these questions have already been asked/answered, there's alot to sift through on this thread.





Not sure about the black sun ones, never really flew as a privateer. I think that's the ones with the odd "Rxxyrryrrixy" names.


The two passanger ships are the Y-wing and the TIE aggressor. Both have turrets for a second player.


The space sectors are one for each planet in the ground game + deep space and Kessel, which both are PVP zones.


Deep space holds the only Star Destroyer in JTL though.





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czFool
Thu Oct 21, 2004 9:59 pm
#171



LordVader27 wrote:
OK, I'll shoot a question.
What are the 3 Black Sun Fighters?
What are the Two Passenger Ships?
And...
What are the space sectors?
Sorry if these questions have already been asked/answered, there's alot to sift through on this thread.






Black sun fighters and multipassenger ships-in order

Black Sun Kihrax (Tier 2)
Black Sun Ixiyen (Tier 3)
Black Sun Rihkzyrk (Tier 4)

Rebel Nova Courier
Imperial Decimator
Mandril
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:00 pm
#172






MajorReb wrote:

I'm having a really tough time deciding between the Y Wing and the A Wing. What do you all prefer?






B-Wing. Y-Wings are Tier 2 ships, A-Wing is a Tier 4. X-Wing is a Tier 3. You'll want a Tier 5 (Master class)ship (B-Wing fighter or Nova multi-passenger) for PvP and high-end PvE. The Z-95, btw is a Tier 1 ship. Don't get hung up on looks - you'll learn early-on that the thing to get hung-up on is survivability.



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Vicotnik
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:04 pm
#173






Mandril wrote:





MajorReb wrote:

I'm having a really tough time deciding between the Y Wing and the A Wing. What do you all prefer?






B-Wing. Y-Wings are Tier 2 ships, A-Wing is a Tier 4. X-Wing is a Tier 3. You'll want a Tier 5 (Master class)ship (B-Wing fighter or Nova multi-passenger) for PvP and high-end PvE. The Z-95, btw is a Tier 1 ship. Don't get hung up on looks - you'll learn early-on that the thing to get hung-up on is survivability.




I wouldn't recommend the B-wing for PVP at all. It turns like an oil-tanker. I'd rather recommend the X-wing. Multipassenger ships aren't very good for PVP either.

Message Edited by Vicotnik on 10-22-2004 07:05 AM



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Mandril
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:11 pm
#174






Trashawn wrote:


Dispite what people are saying about the Z95, I have had great luck taking on higher level ships with my z95 on the beta. I have a 10k chasis with tier 5 weapons and shields on it. I skimped on armor but invested on good shields and weapons did about 1k to 2k of Damage.didn't have adroid tho. my engines were alright max speed of 757. I even got /tell from a guy in an X-wing asking how I could take on these guys with a Z95. There Fast and manuvarable that makes them good in a fight, just don't want to get in the front of the enemy tho.

Message Edited by Trashawn on 10-21-2004 08:21 PM





That's a pre-mass-patch Z-95. My A-Wing is also pre-mass-patch. Trust me, one Tier 5 weapon is now 3k over the Z-95 mass limit. I built a complete set of Tier 5 components last night, experiemented all of the to reduce their mass as much as possible, and loaded them into a YT. The YT I built allowed for 450k mass. I used 350k mass in components. You're not going to see Tier 5 components in a Z-95 in the Live game.


Silly me - I see above you used a mix of Tiers in your loadout. That 2.5k mass Tier 5 weapon was sweet lootage. For the life of I can't build one under 12k-13k fully experiemented down for mass.


Message Edited by Mandril on 10-22-2004 01:16 AM



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Mandril
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:19 pm
#175






Vicotnik wrote:






Mandril wrote:





MajorReb wrote:

I'm having a really tough time deciding between the Y Wing and the A Wing. What do you all prefer?






B-Wing. Y-Wings are Tier 2 ships, A-Wing is a Tier 4. X-Wing is a Tier 3. You'll want a Tier 5 (Master class)ship (B-Wing fighter or Nova multi-passenger) for PvP and high-end PvE. The Z-95, btw is a Tier 1 ship. Don't get hung up on looks - you'll learn early-on that the thing to get hung-up on is survivability.




I wouldn't recommend the B-wing for PVP at all. It turns like an oil-tanker. I'd rather recommend the X-wing. Multipassenger ships aren't very good for PVP either.


Message Edited by Vicotnik on 10-22-2004 07:05 AM





Thanks for the heads-up Vicotnik. I got Master Rebel yesterday but my cert went to Privateer (bug to be patched). I have a B-Wing ready to go but can't fly it until that gets fixed. Saw the mass change actually does favor the X-Wing as the mainline fighter. I'm still in a prepatch A-Wing. I'll retest the X and test the new B when they fix the cert thingy.




"Now with Force Sensitivity!"




Vicotnik
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:26 pm
#176







Mandril wrote:


Thanks for the heads-up Vicotnik. I got Master Rebel yesterday but my cert went to Privateer (bug to be patched). I have a B-Wing ready to go but can't fly it until that gets fixed. Saw the mass change actually does favor the X-Wing as the mainline fighter. I'm still in a prepatch A-Wing. I'll retest the X and test the new B when they fix the cert thingy.



The problem with the B-wing is that it's sluggish, and you'll have a hard time finding the correct balance between the components you mount to it. It has four laser slots and two missile slots, so you'll either run out of mass or reactor power.




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Mandril
Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:29 pm
#177






Vicotnik wrote:






Mandril wrote:


Thanks for the heads-up Vicotnik. I got Master Rebel yesterday but my cert went to Privateer (bug to be patched). I have a B-Wing ready to go but can't fly it until that gets fixed. Saw the mass change actually does favor the X-Wing as the mainline fighter. I'm still in a prepatch A-Wing. I'll retest the X and test the new B when they fix the cert thingy.



The problem with the B-wing is that it's sluggish, and you'll have a hard time finding the correct balance between the components you mount to it. It has four laser slots and two missile slots, so you'll either run out of mass or reactor power.





Roger that. Looks like I'll be testing a lot of loadouts in the X and B over the weekend. 8) The saving grace is that my crafting station is on my yacht - great views while I toil.




"Now with Force Sensitivity!"




Trashawn
Thu Oct 21, 2004 11:17 pm
#178






Vicotnik wrote:





Trashawn wrote:





Vicotnik wrote:





Trashawn wrote:


Dispite what people are saying about the Z95, I have had great luck taking on higher level ships with my z95 on the beta. I have a 10k chasis with tier 5 weapons and shields on it. I skimped on armor but invested on good shields and weapons did about 1k to 2k of Damage.didn't have adroid tho. my engines were alright max speed of 757. I even got /tell from a guy in an X-wing asking how I could take on these guys with a Z95. There Fast and manuvarable that makes them good in a fight, just don't want to get in the front of the enemy tho.

Message Edited by Trashawn on 10-21-2004 08:21 PM





Were you by any chance using old, looted components?


New Tier 5 components probably have a mass value that's higher than 10k.




Nope, I started the beta late I didn'tget any of the lower mass items. The tier 5 disrupters I looted yesterday only have a mass of 2.5k. my shields are also tier 4 with mass of 1.5k the rest of my ship is made from Tier 3 to 4 items.I have a tier 2 reactor that generates 11kof energy but only has 75 hitpointsthat was a wicked loot from a black sun guy out of endor. my defenses suck but when it comes to attack it's all there.






Wait? Tier 5 or cert level 5?


Tier 5 stuff has a cert level of 9 or 10.






Sorry to confuse I mean certification 5 not tier,who thestarted using the wordtier for the level of training anyways....




Trashawn- Master Carbineer/Creature Handler/Politician/Alliance Pilot
Mayor of Gold Beach, Corellia -Bloodfin Galaxy.


Scubato
Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:22 am
#179


Hi I was wondering if anyone could post the screenshots for the Y wing and Y wing long probe frominside as you sit inthe seat. I'd also be interested to see what it lookslike from the gunners position in the Y wing.


Thank You,

Scubato

Message Edited by Scubato on 10-22-2004 01:26 AM

Vicotnik
Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:50 am
#180






Scubato wrote:


Hi I was wondering if anyone could post the screenshots for the Y wing and Y wing long probe frominside as you sit inthe seat. I'd also be interested to see what it lookslike from the gunners position in the Y wing.


Thank You,

Scubato

Message Edited by Scubato on 10-22-2004 01:26 AM



I believe both ships look alike from the inside. Someone had shots of the turret view in another thread here, but it's somewhat of a dissapointment since it's always in third person, never in first person.




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snorbarnet
Fri Oct 22, 2004 3:36 am
#181




Vicotnik wrote:





Scubato wrote:


Hi I was wondering if anyone could post the screenshots for the Y wing and Y wing long probe frominside as you sit inthe seat. I'd also be interested to see what it lookslike from the gunners position in the Y wing.


Thank You,

Scubato

Message Edited by Scubato on 10-22-2004 01:26 AM



I believe both ships look alike from the inside. Someone had shots of the turret view in another thread here, but it's somewhat of a dissapointment since it's always in third person, never in first person.







That was me, and you can find some pictures towards the end of the page over here




Enjoy!









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Scubato
Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:00 am
#182

Thanks Vicotnik and Snorbarnet. I did 3 different forum seaches trying to locate these with no luck and I had givin up until I saw your post. Thanks!

Scubato
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