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Message Edited by MoktokShrah on 10-22-2004 08:41 AM

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Mandril wrote:

Those that know me on the Flurry forums know I've been a pretty up-front critic of the SWG ground portion. I came into JtL Beta with a hefty load of skepticism and more than a few chips on my shoulder. I've gamed since the days of Adventure on Unix mainframes, through Amnesia and Wizardry I on an Apple IIc, to UO, EQ, AO, DAoC, back to EQ (no, I didn't learn my lesson the first time!) and now SWG and JtL Beta. I can't say I've seen it all, but I've seen most of it.

In the beginning of Beta, we beat on the systems, the ships, the new professions (Pilot and Shipwright), and the space content. We b#$ched, we wheedled, we begged, we moaned - we weren't as nice as we could (or should) have been. I wasn't the only one in Beta with a "Yeah, right" attitude.

The JtL Developers care, friends. They care a lot. It took awhile for them to show themselves, but once JustG let them out of their cubes and onto the Beta boards to talk with us, it was clear they are folks who want what we want. We didn't get everything we asked for - we got more. You're going to find an Expansion worthy of Live release. You're going to find a Dev team that'll listen. You'll find a Dev team that'll take a bug report, test it themselves, and if it's legit, fix it. When we saw that, we applauded - loudly and raucously.

If there's one thing that I hope carries forward from JtL Beta to the Live boards and the future, it's the open communcation lines between Us and Them.

I'd suggest you read JustG's Developer's Diary recently posted on the main site. That ain't propaganda. That's real.

Veterans, wait 'till you go up in your yacht. You will be amazed.

If you pre-ordered, you'll like the Flash Speeder.

Now that I've waxed almost rhapsodic about JtL, let's get some things clear:

There will be things you'll love about JtL. There'll be things that'll take some getting used to. And there'll be things you don't like. JtL is not the perfect Expansion any more than SWG is the perfect game, or any more than WoW is going to be the perfect game. If there's one thing I learned from JtL Beta, it's that the perfect game does not exist. But I'll tell you this much for sure - for what JtL is intended to be, it's pretty damned good.

What the Dev team did in JtL bodes very well for "the ground game" and the upcoming combat rebalances, the GCW, and all of that.

I'd like to close with this:

Let's all stop yelling at the Devs and start talking to them. I say this knowing that if you reach back into my live side posting history, you'll find me saying some pretty nasty $41t now and then. The communcation we had with the Devs in JtL Beta showed them to be as human as we are, and that they want the same things for SWG we want. Put yourself in their shoes, take your nastiest post and read as though it was directed to you. That ought to do it!

If you've got an issue, post intelligently about it. Take the time to describe it as well as you can. Imagine yourself writing it up as though you're on the QA team.

No friends, I haven't been assimilated by the SOE Borg - not everything is going to be all sweetness and light going forward. But I will say this much: I was ready to quit SWG to take up WoW and EQII when I started JtL Beta. Now I'm staying. I will play WoW and EQII until I've made up my mind about which of those I like, but I'll only play one of them. I'm sticking with SWG. I want to see where this road goes next. It might just be more fun than I bargained for.

Message Edited by Mandril on 10-21-2004 09:42 PM

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What was best experience with JTL well its this

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