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Yeevle wrote:

Rebels, when will you learn that the X-Wing is for the grunts, A-Wing for the twitch players, B-Wing to pwn everything?

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Sure, as long as it doesn't move at all.

The handling is dramatically improved, or so everyone insists. The numbers seem to back that up. But honestly, as an Ace my favorite ship is still the Longprobe. The Longprobe is absolutely endgame capable, so if you like it, I'd say stick with it. I'm quite the tank in space, but I can also maneuver just enough to dogfight. Rolling is the trick, of course.

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Arands wrote:

But you better just sit still when fighting anything with speed and make them joust you head on, because you're never getting behind an Interceptor or an Oppressor. You might have the speed, but the manv just isn't there.

Arands

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Yes, turning your ship into a turret when fighting the fast, nimble TIEs is important. However, I can drop behind an Interceptor some of the time, and I find Oppressors to be easy pickings to drop behind. The fact is, though, if you are already jousting an Interceptor/Advanced, there is little need to drop on their six. Let them come around and finish them off with 1 or 2 shots. Though don't give up on real dogfighting in a Longprobe. Certainly not against anything as akward as the Oppressor. If you begin your turns early, know your maximum cornering speed, take advantage of yaw and pitch stacking, and become proficient at knowing when and how to roll, you can drop on the butt of any ship in the game.

Sounds like what your grappeling with, is convergance.

Alot of your shots seemingly straddle the target?

Im going to cut and paste a post i made elsewhere, as it kind of applies here:

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I could be wrong, but here's my understanding. (from an X wing perspective.)

I have Two guns.
Gun 1: ion (2600 damage)
Gun 2: disruptor (2600 damage)

When mounted it's configured:
1a--2b
2a--1b

Both guns fire 2 bolts (A and B), so i have 4 bolts total.

If i fire and:
hit my target with bolt 1A, i score 2600 damage.
hit with both bolts 1A and 1B, i still score 2600 damage.
hit with bolts 1A, 1B, 2A, and 2B, i score 2600 damage X 2.

Now the fun part is..
if i hit with only bolts 1A and 2A, i still score 2600 damage X 2.

In short, two bolts, one gun. I read a post somewhere that essentually said if one bolt hits, they all hit. Im assuming that they were refering to the bolts a single gun produces.

Oh ya, as to weapon damage and math.

Take your min/max damage stat, and mulitply it by the modifer.

A blaster for example that does 1500-2600 damage with a .420 mod vs shield and armor acutally does
630- 1092 damage.



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To sum, from a certain perspective, you acutally have a greater chance of hitting. Convergance is a funky thing, but generally, its healty to roll alot, and keep a mental note that the closer you are to your target, the greater chance your shots will straddle the target.

As an aiside, i would change the target reticle to the 2nd style.

/ui reticleSelect 2

it helps alot.

Here's what i mean, (crappy picks i know)

http://www.42ndfireants.com/42nd/ducimus/outplane2.GIF

Now, heres the same pic where i annotated the targets direction of travel (best guess), as well as my own, and where the bolts would be going.

http://www.42ndfireants.com/42nd/ducimus/outplane3.GIF

Next shot, is where im in the same plane of motion as my target. Depending on how close i am to him, im might have a problem wtih convergance. Bumping my nose to the left or right a little may help if im too close. Or if the situation allows, roll into him as you fire your guns.

http://www.42ndfireants.com/42nd/ducimus/inplane.GIF


BTW, how do i make teh clicky on this board?

The convergance issue is one that is going tokeep coming back again and again untilthere is some determination made one way or another.The majority of the community would like to see convergance happen, and from what you are saying (orginal poster)the ship is notas much of a dog, as it is just difficult touse effectively with the weapons being sospead apart.

The simple solution would be a command like /convergeXXXX where the XXXX represented, in meters, the convergance distance. Obviously, a "bottom" cap of 200 or maybe 250 is needed, but even at that steep angle, you could hit targets closer to you. Darth Vader's TIE Advanced was equipped with this feature (that's what he is doing with the knobs on the flight yoke), and it was a throwback to WWI and WWII pilots calibrating their guns.

If they fly in the proper trio setup, the B-Wing can be truly devestating. However, because of the gun placement and the utter lack of convergence, I find it to be little more than a clumsy Y-Wing Longprobe right now.

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Flong wrote:

oooh boy, I guess I'm the only ace pilot in an xwing?

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No, your not the only one. If i disassembled and packed up every ship i owned, execpt for one, that one would be my X wing.

I was about to ask how in the hell you managed to squeeze in some L8 guns, but looking at your part list, you have alot of prepatch loot drops in there. Low level parts with low mass and good stats. You didnt mention armor either so im guessing you shimmed that down as well as boosters and ECM to save weight.

I've had the exact same problem with my X-wing of late. When I first got the ship and outfitted it, I never really had a problem with the bolts hitting from the guns.

After patch 11.3, I've attempted to dogfight TIE interceptors and regular TIE's numerous times, only to fly around in space for 2-3 minutes rolling, yawing and doing everything I can to get my shots to hit. I usually end up watching my shots fly harmlessly past, regardless of where and how I position myself when firing.

I'm going to try the second reticle in the hopes it will improve things. Otherwise, I'm moving on to an A-wing or moving back to a longprobe.