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MandalorianWarrior99
Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:17 pm
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Im also Concerned about the Way JTL will Affect my computer and i am about to Scrap The Whole thing... its almost 3-4yrs old i think... and runs on a Celeron Prossesor, and I have PCI 64 Mb GeForce4 installed, i was wondering what your ideas were to help me into buying a New PC before Launch... oh and also 512Mb Ram
Message Edited by MandalorianWarrior99 on 07-10-2004 04:18 PM
MandalorianWarrior99
Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:19 pm
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Im also Concerned about my PCI slot being so Overrated compared to a AGP....
Yoyort
Sat Jul 10, 2004 1:19 pm
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I had plans of getting a new computer after summer vacation...so no troubles for me... luck of the draw i guess.
WookieIsshe
Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:12 pm
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Why would you all need a new computer to run JtL for? It is using the same engine as SWG is running on now? The only difference is you will control the action and not the game.
Bisola
Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:27 pm
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I'm actually in the process of upgrading my Athlon 1800+ computer with a 128mb ATI Radeon 8500LE and 384mb of DDR 2100 memory (this last thing is the main problem in running the game for me) to an Athlon 64 3000+ (with the motherboard to support it) with 1.5 gb of DDR 2100 memory and an Nvidia GeForceFX 5800 with256mb of onboard ram. If this doesn't run JTL reasonably well then I just give up 
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Bisola
Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:29 pm
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WookieIsshe wrote:Why would you all need a new computer to run JtL for? It is using the same engine as SWG is running on now? The only difference is you will control the action and not the game.
For me it's more an an issue of running the core game better than anything else. I've heard that memory is probably the most important thing to upgrade which is why I'm getting so much
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sosusred
Sat Jul 10, 2004 6:30 pm
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how are you so sure ppl will be bale to run jtl on low end computers? Like I said in my first post, I have a celeron 2.2 ghz. Why would you think such a crappy chip could run an advanced game like this? I was a fan fest, I saw jtl. Your chip is going to need to handle alot of fps (frames per second) and mine cant. And im sure many other ppl are in the same boat. If your not going to upgradeor arent interested in upgrading, then move along, this is not the thread your looking for.
JDubFenix
Sat Jul 10, 2004 7:35 pm
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My computer is about a year old but I was fairly certain that JTL was going to run on the same min requirements as the base game. I was going to snag some more ram, but apart from that I'm pretty sure I'm okay.
Message Edited by JDubFenix on 07-11-2004 09:07 AM
Tover
Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:55 pm
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I remember running the Tie Fighter game on a 33mhz 486. The system had 4mb of really slow ram on a really slow bus. The video card had 2mb of RAM and ran in a VESA local bus slot that whent from the back of the MB to the front of it. The entire thing ran wondefully.
Since that old PC, there have been the 486DX2, 486DX4, Pentium, PentiumII, PentiumIII, and PentiumIV for the main stream market. That is 6 full generations of core chip improvments. Each improvment would create a chip that would run faster then it's predicessor at the same clock speed. Ontop of the core chip improvments, the speed of chips has increased 100 fold.
Video cards have gone non processing buffers to allow you to use increased resolutions at increased color depths, to fast GPU's rivaling the power of the system's main processor. VL-Bus (132mb/s) have given way to the much faster AGP, AGP4x, AGP8x (2gb/s), and the new PCIexpress (up to 4gb/s) systems allowing much faster data rates between the computer and the video subsystem.
Ram speed has increased just as much as the rest of it, so has quantity of ram in a given system.
Those old models of the TIEs, XWings, YTs, Z95s, and so on didn't look that much differant then what I've seen of JTL and you don't have more of them on the screen at a given time. The main differance is that the background is prettier. Certainly, nothing I have seen of JTL looks any better then Freespace 2. That game had system reqs of a Pentium 200mhz with 32mb of ram.
I will be quite disapointed if you have to have a bleeding edge box to get a playable framerate out of JTL.
Qui_ConGinn
Sat Jul 10, 2004 9:23 pm
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Already got mine ordered, and i'm quite proud of it myself.
AlienWare Area-51 PCI express
3.2 Intell P4 with HT (tried to get the 3.4 extream edition 2megabite cache would have kicked ass :smileysad
GeForce 6800 256 MB video card
1.256 gigs of ram
and one **edit**ty sound card, lol
KaylBreinhar
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:02 pm
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Right now the best configs you can get for the money are:
Intel-based:
* Any i865 or i875 motherboard (the i925x boards are nice but LGA775 processors really don't have a future because Intel killed their next generation P4, codename Tejas,and DDR2 doesn't have much of a performance advantage to be worth the extra money at this point)
* P4 2.8 to 3.0 - 800FSB
AMD-based:
* nForce3 250Gb board or a Via K8T800 board. There are only a handful of Socket-939 boards out there at the moment anyway.
* Spring the extra money to get a 3500+ Socket-939 processor. Better yet, wait until the "newness" of the new package dies down and 3000+ 939 chipsbecome available. Socket-939 seems to be the only socket AMD makes now that actually has a future that extends beyond one year - Socket 940 is getting scuttled and Socket 754 is ceasing to exist.
Components:
* 1GB of RAM - anything more truly is overkill. I recommend Crucial simply because in the realm of "generic" RAM, they're kings. Their stuff isn't crap and is backed by a lifetime guarantee that actually means something. If you buy a bargain-bin brand like Centonor 'store-special' RAM for a system designed even partially for gaming, you deserve to be shot. PNY's RAM fits this designation as well - as you can't even really be sure you're even getting the same chips on each stick of it.
* For a video card...who knows. SOE hasn't discussed the graphics engine of JTL but one would think they'd have mentioned it would take advantage of DX9 shaders by now. That being said, at the moment probably your best bet is a 6800GT or X800 Pro, or on the low end, a 5900XT or 9800 Pro. If you're technologically inclined, a lot of 256MB 9800 Pros can be flashed into 9800XTs (if installing adriver is "hard" in your book - forget about attempting this). If you have the money for a X800XT or 6800 Ultra or *false swoon* Ultra Extreme, knock yourselves out.
* A Western Digital WD740GD 10,000rpm SATA Raptor hard drive. Hard drives are the absolute slowestcomponent in your system (other than your carbon-based ass plucking away at keys at a dead sloth's pace in your CPU's eyes)- the faster yours is, the lesser the time the rest of your computer waits for the only non-solid-state memory in your computer to fetch data. However, at 74GB it's a tad small - a nice substitute are the new Maxtor MaxLine III drives - 7200rpm, but a 16MB cache buffer helps move data faster into the computer, and the drive comes in capacities up to 300GB.
* And MOST IMPORTANTLY, if you're running a 300W PSU or less, it's time to get a better one. 400W is pretty much all you need, and over 500W is pretty much overkill. If money is no object, spring for the TurboCools at PC Power and Cooling (www.pcpowerandcooling.com) - your devices will never have to worry about undervoltage or a dirty signal ever again. Getting one with NATIVE SATA plugs isn't a bad idea, either, as true SATA drives will use a 3.3v line that most power supplies older than one year don't have.
Typically, if you unscrew your power supply and hold it in your hands, and it's HEAVY (for a computer component), you have a decent box. If you pick it up and it's feather-light - it's time to invest in a quality PSU.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 07-11-2004 01:46 AM
Haan-Salan
Sat Jul 10, 2004 10:09 pm
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Whoever said it was right who said RAM is the most important thing with this game. The processor speed really isn't that big of a deal, but a minimum of 512k RAM is. 1Gb is ideal.
And go with AMD. Better chip, a lot cheaper than Intel(you pay for the name Intel, not the chip).
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