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Thread: Solo's Kessel Run Record Wrong?

Gom_Kuub
Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:16 pm
#1

in SWG han solo says he did the kessel run in under 17 parsecs, but in A New Hope he said he did it in under 12!

your thoughts?


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LomasAtorian
Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:17 pm
#2

maybe he exagerated?
Deadtech
Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:21 pm
#3

12 is under 17. Sounds correct to me.



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GeorgeWashingtonII
Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:40 pm
#4


when does he say this in the game

Message Edited by GeorgeWashingtonII on 12-01-2004 06:04 PM



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Sylia
Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:59 pm
#5

A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.



GeorgeWashingtonII
Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:04 pm
#6






Sylia wrote:

A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.








that would make know sense where did u get your fax?



ccccggggggggggHOSKA ASREEN OF ECLIPSE "your bakeryproducts are weak old man"ggggggggggccccWhen people refer to something that is Star Wars canon, they are referring to the "official story" of Star Wars.

George Lucas says (love it or hate it) that only the Star Wars movies are truly canon - that is, that only the movies offer the true story of what happened in the Star Wars galaxy. According to George, all the events that appear in the Expanded Universe - comics, novels, games - did not actually happen in the Star Wars galaxy, but are only additional tales that provide "what if" scenarios and events.

Many people hate George Lucas for this, since even though he personally approves all Expanded Universe material, markets it under LucasFilm, LucasBooks, LucasArts, and profits greatly from it, he still says it is not canon.
atytula
Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:08 pm
#7






Sylia wrote:

A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.




Who said Han was talking about time. He is definately talking about distance. It is very hard to do the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs.





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KaardeShaarke
Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:23 pm
#8






atytula wrote:





Sylia wrote:

A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.




Who said Han was talking about time. He is definately talking about distance. It is very hard to do the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs.








Exactly.In EU lore, the measure of how well you perform the Kessel Run is by how close you can get to the Maw without getting sucked into it and destroyed. As a result of this, the shorter distance traveled makes for a shorter overall travel time...but the true measure for Fame and Fortune purposes is in how close you get, in parsecs, to the Maw itself.




Gom_Kuub
Wed Dec 01, 2004 8:08 pm
#9






GeorgeWashingtonII wrote:


when does he say this in the game

Message Edited by GeorgeWashingtonII on 12-01-2004 06:04 PM






he says it during the rebel theme park after some of his missions



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atytula
Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:00 pm
#10






KaardeShaarke wrote:






atytula wrote:





Sylia wrote:

A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.




Who said Han was talking about time. He is definately talking about distance. It is very hard to do the Kessel run in under 12 parsecs.








Exactly.In EU lore, the measure of how well you perform the Kessel Run is by how close you can get to the Maw without getting sucked into it and destroyed. As a result of this, the shorter distance traveled makes for a shorter overall travel time...but the true measure for Fame and Fortune purposes is in how close you get, in parsecs, to the Maw itself.







Was it distance from the maw, or was it distance to do the run. I interpreted it as a curved run, where there is a safe lane between Kessel and the maw. One could take a shortcut and cut the corner and hence do it in less distance. This would be a true test of the speed and power of a ship because if you went to close, you would have more gravitational forces acting on you and your ship might fall apart (resulting in it being sucked into the maw). When Han did the Kessel run, he was trying to get away from imperials. He dumped his load of spice and was able to cut the corner of the Kessel run enough so he could get away. The total distance of his hyperspace jump was less then 12 parsecs, which was better then any known ship.


I think this was discussed in the Jedi Academy trilogy. I might just go back an reread it just for curiousity sake (unless someone else has some points )






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CassiusK
Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:17 pm
#11

The way I see it, George Lucas screwed up. He thought a parsec was a measure of time (like nanosecond), when in fact it is distance. After many a star wars geek pointed this out over the years, writers of the EU tried to bend Han's meaning of "less than 12 parsecs" into one that made more sense as a measure of distance.


What does it matter anyway?


The real question is, where the heck is Kessel in the game? I haven't had the privelage of being there yet.



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atytula
Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:20 pm
#12


Well, I know if you are a Rebel, you go to the Deepspace station in the Dantooine sector. From there you can get to Kessel.


Back to the parsec discussion. You are making an assumption that Lucas messed up. He may have intended to use parsec, knowing full well what it meant. The EU writers did a great job of making sence of the statement, wether it was a Lucas mess up or not.

Message Edited by atytula on 12-03-2004 01:21 AM




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Astev_Aris
Thu Dec 02, 2004 11:21 pm
#13





GeorgeWashingtonII wrote:



Sylia wrote:
A parsec is a measure of distance anyway ... not time.






that would make know sense where did u get your fax?



par·sec


n.


A unit of astronomical length based on the distance from Earth at which stellar parallax is one second of arc and equal to 3.258 light-years, 3.086 × 10EE13 kilometers, or 1.918 × 10EE13 miles.


Pardon the calculator scientific notation, but this ridiculous board doesn't like the superscript tag.


Message Edited by Astev_Aris on 12-03-200401:27 AM

Message Edited by Astev_Aris on 12-03-2004 01:33 AM



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