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Thread: FUN vs DEVS

Magic013
Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:04 pm
#1






Escoh wrote:





Magic013 wrote:

I think the devs are doing it to make us fly in squadrons, but you have to realize that not everything should be soloable. Flying in groups is a lot of fun aswell. Also, pilot is a profession that doesn't cost any skillpoints so there has to be something to compensate for that.







I totaly realize everything is not soloable. I do not mind flying in squadrons. And the Tier 3 missions are hard! Make the missions hard but not impossible



I bring friends on every mission and help lots of people out with there begginer missions. But to complete a mission to train is not a good idea. Why, you ask, let me tell you. Because SOE is incomatent with mission there broken on the ground and there broken in space and they will contuinue to be bugged and gated.


I am now gatted on the Tier 3 mission i have 1,000,000 banked xp ready to train but i cant, why, cause there is a static Tier4 Spawn at one of the missions points and its hard as hell to beat. They have acknologed this and are fixeing it in a patch and that is fine. Thing is with all the test and beta this should have never happed.







Missions to level seem to work fine for the Jedi system, because they got fixed soon enough. SOE is very strickt in release dates, so the missions will be bugged yes, but they will also be fixed soon enough. It's just people who get the game right away will get a not fully working version, and I know that these bugged missions are high on the "To Fix" list of the devs.



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Escoh
Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:07 pm
#2






Magic013 wrote:





Escoh wrote:





Magic013 wrote:

I think the devs are doing it to make us fly in squadrons, but you have to realize that not everything should be soloable. Flying in groups is a lot of fun aswell. Also, pilot is a profession that doesn't cost any skillpoints so there has to be something to compensate for that.







I totaly realize everything is not soloable. I do not mind flying in squadrons. And the Tier 3 missions are hard! Make the missions hard but not impossible



I bring friends on every mission and help lots of people out with there begginer missions. But to complete a mission to train is not a good idea. Why, you ask, let me tell you. Because SOE is incomatent with mission there broken on the ground and there broken in space and they will contuinue to be bugged and gated.


I am now gatted on the Tier 3 mission i have 1,000,000 banked xp ready to train but i cant, why, cause there is a static Tier4 Spawn at one of the missions points and its hard as hell to beat. They have acknologed this and are fixeing it in a patch and that is fine. Thing is with all the test and beta this should have never happed.







Missions to level seem to work fine for the Jedi system, because they got fixed soon enough. SOE is very strickt in release dates, so the missions will be bugged yes, but they will also be fixed soon enough. It's just people who get the game right away will get a not fully working version, and I know that these bugged missions are high on the "To Fix" list of the devs.






This is unacceptable for me! The game should not have a different experiencejust becuase it was anew release.Many weeks of beta testing and bugging, it was all layed out for them to see. If you have a game and its not ready to be relased dont release it.



***One star away happend in beta too.. Just should'nt be that had to get missions right.

Message Edited by Escoh on 11-03-2004 05:23 PM



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BigRay
Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:26 pm
#3

Devs just can't win, can they. People complain about the ground game being easy, then they complain about JTL being a challenge. People complain about the ground game grind, then they complain about JTL's quest based advancement.
Escoh
Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:28 pm
#4






BigRay wrote:

Devs just can't win, can they. People complain about the ground game being easy, then they complain about JTL being a challenge. People complain about the ground game grind, then they complain about JTL's quest based advancement.







Im not complaining about it being easy or hard. The quest base systems would be great if it worked correctly. JTLS is fun as hell and i do enjoy playing it or i would'nt be here.



Im complaining cause its broke.




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Zefru
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:19 pm
#5

Here's my silver platter, Dev's please fill it up with everything, it's just too hard to work for.
Ecibob
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:24 pm
#6


its funny how people go on and on about all these people soloing on the ground, and grinding.. and when the devs actually do something about it, people complain even more.. whoever made this thread.. s t fu
Escoh
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:27 pm
#7






Ecibob wrote:


its funny how people go on and on about all these people soloing on the ground, and grinding.. and when the devs actually do something about it, people complain even more.. whoever made this thread.. s t fu






OH i forgot they made you god my bad.



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NoPoliticalStatment
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:35 pm
#8

I didn't join for fun, i joined because i wanted to RP star wars, not see Jedi every where.



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Starson
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:40 pm
#9

I like the mission system, it give me a reason to go out and kill stuff, not just random kill'n to lvl.



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pneumonic81
Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:48 pm
#10






NoPoliticalStatment wrote:

I didn't join for fun, i joined because i wanted to RP star wars, not see Jedi every where.




good to know. perhpas u should try playing WoW. i hear they arent playing for fun either.

atytula
Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:14 pm
#11






Escoh wrote:

I ranted and raved about the missions so many times in beta and i got one starred everytime.. I still think its a bad idea to gate your training be-cause you havent competed a mission.




I disagree. While I may not agree with how it was done in JTL I do like the idea of leveling being quest based as opposed to xp based. Grinding is something that most MMORPG are known for and something that gets boring quick. JTL is twitch and isn't about the skills. It is about the missions. Personally I wish there were a lot of missions of different types, even after master. I am kind of scared that shortly after mastering there will be nothing left to do. In a sence, I will enjoy the fact that it may take me months to get from 4444 to master.





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TickTock
Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:18 pm
#12

It's a challenge. Try harder. Some of us don't curl up into a fetal position and suck our thumbs when faced with something challenging.
Escoh
Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:57 pm
#13

Its a challange for sure..


I fished the mission today using some off beat tatics. solo too. (how ironic)



I was just mad that i could'nt pass this mission and i know the static spawn was not sposse to be there.. sorry if i came off obtuse






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