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Thread: blueprints and deeds

X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:16 pm
#1


Ok i am having a hard time understanding why the blueprints for ships are priced so high since its not actually a ship like deeded ships.

I understand that a deeded ship would sellhigh since the person already paid to create the chassis.

Would you please help me understand


and oh can privateers use astromech on any of their ships


thanks

Message Edited by X-Rebel on 12-09-2004 02:17 PM



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Blackjack_Nova
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:18 pm
#2

The deed system was setup to take money out of the economy. That is the long and short of it. It is a money sink.




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truewildman
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:22 pm
#3

I haven't been able to use a droid, but we can use flight computers instead, which still require the use of a droid interface.





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MusicManZarick
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:24 pm
#4

To answer your second question, I have not been able to put a 'mech into any ship yet. Haven't tried the Rihx yet, but I will have one tonight.

They CAN however, use Flight Computers, which are just as good for that particular purpose.





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X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:27 pm
#5

ya i understand the deed system but why dont people just sell the deeded ships instead of the highpriced blueprints. Like i have to pay 60 to 120k for a teir2 ship blueprint then i have to turn around and pay the chassis bulider next the the shipright another 15 to 30k to make the chassis.


Its like me having to pay the for same ship 2 times for the same amount which i think is a total ripp off.


Unless the blueprints auctualy takes alot of money to make them.


that what i am trying to understand. lol tell me why i have to pay 2 times lol

thanks



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X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:28 pm
#6

lol ok on flight computers when i try to load on it turns read is that normal or am i not loading it right lol

i have the questions bug i am new back to the game and alot has changed lol alot to me



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truewildman
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:29 pm
#7






X-Rebel wrote:

lol ok on flight computers when i try to load on it turns read is that normal or am i not loading it right lol

i have the questions bug i am new back to the game and alot has changed lol alot to me






Yes, I wish they would choose a different color. But, to answer your question, it means it is successfully loaded.





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X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:31 pm
#8

ok cool on the flight computer then

lol now the having to pay 2 times for a shpquestion that sucks.or am i just not understanding lol



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darmokVtS
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:40 pm
#9



X-Rebel wrote:
ya i understand the deed system but why dont people just sell the deeded ships instead of the highpriced blueprints.





Two things to consider here:

a) you cannot get the dealer to exchange a blueprint for a deed if you aren't certed for that ship yourself afaik

b) If shipwrights would do turn in their blueprints for deeds you would have to expect to pay the price for the blueprint (Shipwrights use a big amount of ressources for making the blueprints, yes it's wierdly designed but that's how it is) plus the price payed at the chassis dealer and most likely an extra fee for the extra "hassle" of transferring the blueprint to a deed. At the end of the day you'd pay at least the same or even more for the ready deed .




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X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:45 pm
#10

aahhhhh it makes since now it takes alot of resources to make blueprints wierd but ok i understand that. So most of the time ur paying for the resources and then the bump price for time serverd for makeing it. It was just wiered lol i bought a teir 1 ship that was deed for 6k and people around me were trying to sell just the blue prints for 10 to 45k. then i though that was messed up when i just bought a ready to go shipe less parts of course for 6k.


thanks




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TroiCorp
Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:36 pm
#11

Ive noticed a lot of people selling all level ships really really cheap. To me its either they were their grind quality ships to make master shipwright or they just dont know what resources acutally cost. To me if I harvested all my own resources 1) I might save some money by cutting out the middle man 2) i'd lose more money cause I wouldnt have enough resources to make personal requests for people. Mainly because you need huge amounts of resources. If I had 10 large heavies setup on a brand new spawn of steel I might get 1-2 mill of steel. Now turn that around and make some ships, for exampleif I make master level ships I'd make about 10 or so and all that steel is gone by the time I get done. Its a huge money sink for SW's . I invested 19.8 mill to grind through SW. I made around 70 mill since launch. Paid 19.8 to a guildie that loaned it to me up front, bought resources in bulk ( with and without the inflated prices from resource guys) and I have around 32 mill now I believe maybe less. I started with 300k. Ive made money, but also returned it back into the economy due to resources. I still have to buy more, but i'm going to hold out till I really need them due to the solo group nerf and less people spending money.



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KenzoDarkron
Thu Dec 09, 2004 4:57 pm
#12






X-Rebel wrote:

aahhhhh it makes since now it takes alot of resources to make blueprints wierd but ok i understand that. So most of the time ur paying for the resources and then the bump price for time serverd for makeing it. It was just wiered lol i bought a teir 1 ship that was deed for 6k and people around me were trying to sell just the blue prints for 10 to 45k. then i though that was messed up when i just bought a ready to go shipe less parts of course for 6k.


thanks




I see said the blind man.





Not many people buy Tier 1 ships so it could have just been someone that was trying to get whatever credits they could by selling the deed after they were certified for something better. Other people might be using higher quality materials and then others might just be trying to pull a fast one on newb pilots. It all depends on the Shipwright....they can make all ships but they can only get one faction type deeded themselves. It is just one of those things.


I would suggest making friends with a shipwright of your same faction and that might increase your chances of getting a deed rather than a blueprint. It would be a good idea to befriend a shipwright not only for that but also to get components RE'd and have a constant source of higher cert components as you advance.





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X-Rebel
Thu Dec 09, 2004 10:02 pm
#13

cool thanks for the info everyone now i have a prospective now on the whole shipwrite thing



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