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Message Edited by NasherUK on 03-13-2005 09:22 AM

Well - looking at the Falcon in the movies, it could take quite a battering (including fire from ISD's etc) so why not ramp up the deflector shield slots for MP's.

I like being a co-pilot...

The turrets are a pain, though. I am lucky to hit anything more often than not. I would like to see MP ships be able to take more of a beating, though. It's kind of sad to see TIE fighters last longer in a fight than a Decemator.

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homelessguy wrote:

i think the the co-pilot. the guy that press the droid options should be scraped because its first of all a waste of time and its damn boring to just press buttons.

also we need more guns so we can dish more damage out and fill some of that empty mass

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My co-pilot will not give up his seat for anything. He love it - so I suppose there are some people out there who are more then happy to be co-pilots.

I tend to go back and forth on this. From the one side they're the only heavy MP ships we have, so they're basically occupying the same conceptual space as capital ships, but they don't match capital ships practically. On the other hand, they're not capital ships and really shouldn't be seen as such so they shouldn't have too much more firepower or defenses. However we'd then need to introduce capital ships into the game so they could take their rightful place as the heavy, multi-passanger combat ships. Going with this, we'd need another reason for the current MP ships to remain in the game - off the top of my head the remaining mass should be considered a cargo hold and certain JTL specific resources should only be transportable as cargo.

the MP ships should be much more powerful than fighters. they are many times the size of a fighter craft and therefor have much more room for either larger or multipuls of the equipment. Asumeing they dont make MP only equipment that is theroreticly biger and more powerful (too big for a fighter to handle) what they should do is alow multipuls of most of the componants. primaraly the ones that should alow multipuls are armor shields weapons capacitors and reactors (to power the extra shields and weapons) engiens and boosters dont need multipuls sence these thigns arnt soposed to be as speedy as fighters. as for the ones that should have more on MP ships

Armor. 3 or 4 layers per side. fighters have notoriously weak armor as they are fairly compact so theres no room and extra mass would slow them down too much. those same restrictions dont apply for the MP ships so they would have more armor. they shouldnt be as fragial as a small fighter.

Shields. prety much the same as armor a larger ship has room for more shields than a fighter and it would take much more to punch through them. look at the falcon vs the ties in EP4 vs the Xwings vs Ties around the deathstar. the falcon took tons of hits from those 4 fighters and survived where a couple of direct hits on the Xwings took them down.

Reactors. well you need more power to run those biger shields and weapons so youll need a bigger reactor too. baring large reactors being avalible multipuls will do.

blasters. normaly if your going to go to the trouble of haveing a gun turet particularly on a large ship why would you only install 1 barral. the falcon had Quad lasers AKA 4 shots at once from each turet (although in the movies they were fireing 2 at a time but there it was sacrificeing punch per shot for refire rate) even if you only put 1 cannon on a turet on a big ship your gona put in a big gun if you can. probably should alow 2-4 guns per turet and maybe a single gun for the pilot as well.

capacitors. agian more room than a fighter and you need a biger capacitor to handel the load of the biger guns. agian 2-4 preferably 2 per turet.


overall MP ships are much bigger and slower than a fighter, they should have the firepower and durability to match that. a nimble fighter that can dodge the fire comeing from the larger ship could take the ship down but it would take alot of hits for the small fighter to take it down and 1 lucky hit from the masive firepower the MP ship has would be all it would take to severily dammage or distroy the fighter.

also on the turets. realy they are not that bad if you pratice with them. my brother and I have been useing the Ywing lately with him in the second seat. he has goten realy good at hiting targets that are withen his fireing arc under most situations. only wild manuvers throw him off and thats usaly cause his target spins out of his field of fire to ofast. primaraly I just pick targets and go as usal when flying solo and dodge fire as nessicary. most of the time he fires at whatever I'm after although he has an aiming advantage cause the turent reaims almost instantly where I have to turn that wallowing pig of a ship to aim. if the target is out turning me by a bit or its just takeing soem time to bring it into my field of fire he can usaly continue fireing at it while I try to bring my gun to bare. he also seems to like fireing at anything that happens to get into my rear arc as anythign back there is usaly focusing on following me giveing him a relitivly unmoving target as long as I'm not doing something wacky up in the drivers seat. the turets are usable you just have to learn how to work togeather and the pilot has to be in on this. probably the bigest thing that would help is to give the pilot in the MP ships a single gun. if he's following a target trying to shoot it he will be a fairly stable platform for the turet people to help out, at least in relation to that one target. flying around willy nilly with no goal its much harder on the people in the turets.

Also there needs to be more for the crew to do, such as reload missile tubes and run around the ship shifting power to boost needed systems to get further boosts. Maybe MP ships could be made like the corvette where the subsystems have to be hit directly and destroyed before you can destroy the whole ship (except you would need to shoot out the shields first on a MP ship), this would give repair crews more to do aswell.

Message Edited by NasherUK on 03-14-2005 04:21 AM