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NasherUK
Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:58 am
#1
Are they going to be put back at sensible speeds? A tier 5NPC bomber can still outrun a player interceptor...
Its especially bad now that engines got nerfed
Message Edited by NasherUK on 11-29-2004 10:59 AM
captainvoelkel
Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:20 pm
#2
The ai is definitely better. The looting is nicer too ie: tier appropriate. I didnt see the speed problem but thats because ive got the 92 engine. I wish they would add in some really high level missions for the masters tho, but at least the new missions are a start.
truewildman
Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:21 pm
#3
Not for long. Loot revamp, better crafted/looted engines, engine overload chips, soon no one will get left behind.
Ducimus
Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:23 pm
#4
I haven't done teir 5's yet.
Tier4's are doable. Not impossible speeds, acutally, their fun now. All dogfighting, No more jousting.
Havent noticed any loot at all yet, im wondering if loot drop rates were lowered.
BTW, engines were not nerfed. The one teir reward mission engine is not the only engine in the galaxy. Infact i have a prenerfed one, and i dont even use it because there ARE other engines.
Tier4's are doable. Not impossible speeds, acutally, their fun now. All dogfighting, No more jousting.
Havent noticed any loot at all yet, im wondering if loot drop rates were lowered.
BTW, engines were not nerfed. The one teir reward mission engine is not the only engine in the galaxy. Infact i have a prenerfed one, and i dont even use it because there ARE other engines.
Message Edited by Ducimus on 11-29-2004 11:24 AM
Zutono
Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:42 pm
#5
Impossible speeds? Nah...
The only people who complain about impossible speeds are the ones who aren't using the droid specials to their fullest or been out and gotten a good custom engine made by your local shipwright.
Quite easy to break 1500 in pretty much any ship if you set yourself up right. (and yes...I'm including the big multiplayer ships too, my Decimator can break 1700)
YamadaMan
Mon Nov 29, 2004 12:52 pm
#6
Zutono wrote:Impossible speeds? Nah...The only people who complain about impossible speeds are the ones who aren't using the droid specials to their fullest or been out and gotten a good custom engine made by your local shipwright.Quite easy to break 1500 in pretty much any ship if you set yourself up right. (and yes...I'm including the big multiplayer ships too, my Decimator can break 1700)
I second that, in my mp ships I can outrun ANY NPC ship ingame, when I write "any" I mean "ANY" even tier 5 awing/interceptor, ANYTHING.
read the manual
Undergrid
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:44 pm
#7
I don't know about the rest of you, but the blacksun and TIE fighters I've been fighting today just loop around me in circles. Its like the AI has been reverted to a stage in beta.
truewildman
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:45 pm
#8
Undergrid wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but the blacksun and TIE fighters I've been fighting today just loop around me in circles. Its like the AI has been reverted to a stage in beta.
Well, when you're going so damned slow, what do you expect them to do? Just keep going??
Maxila
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:47 pm
#9
/Agreed
The teir 5 Speed thing is my only complaint other then that A.I. is pretty good now
Undergrid
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:48 pm
#10
truewildman wrote:
Undergrid wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but the blacksun and TIE fighters I've been fighting today just loop around me in circles. Its like the AI has been reverted to a stage in beta.
Well, when you're going so damned slow, what do you expect them to do? Just keep going??
Ok, so going at a speed of 1200 is slow? I have to slow down just so I don't overshoot the damn things, the blacksuns I've been fighting have gone from a cruise speed of 950ish to 809..
KaylBreinhar
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#11
Tier 4 A-Wings zoom around at 999kph. Tier 5s at 1099kph.
I'm using an REed version of the reward engine as my main propulsion system. For sh*ts and grins, I loaded one of my old high-manueverability L4 engines and went to Kessel. With a booster (REed Novaldex Hypernova) I could easily close the gap between me and T5 A-Wings.
Taking them out with the REed L4 and the REed L6 reward engine was separated by about 30 seconds. 30 extra seconds to take accurate potshots from a further distance as the ship flew away yet not out of firing range.
You can do anything in this game if you figure out the tactics, or as someone small-minded said in another thread I replied to, "learn how to cheat the AI." If I can take out the 1099kph gnats with a 65 pitch/yaw 74.1 speed L4, other people can, too.
I'm using an REed version of the reward engine as my main propulsion system. For sh*ts and grins, I loaded one of my old high-manueverability L4 engines and went to Kessel. With a booster (REed Novaldex Hypernova) I could easily close the gap between me and T5 A-Wings.
Taking them out with the REed L4 and the REed L6 reward engine was separated by about 30 seconds. 30 extra seconds to take accurate potshots from a further distance as the ship flew away yet not out of firing range.
You can do anything in this game if you figure out the tactics, or as someone small-minded said in another thread I replied to, "learn how to cheat the AI." If I can take out the 1099kph gnats with a 65 pitch/yaw 74.1 speed L4, other people can, too.
Ducimus
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:55 pm
#12
Undergrid wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but the blacksun and TIE fighters I've been fighting today just loop around me in circles. Its like the AI has been reverted to a stage in beta.
Theres more to "looping" than you think.
http://www.sci.fi/~fta/acmintro.htm#Menu
truewildman
Mon Nov 29, 2004 3:04 pm
#13
Undergrid wrote:
truewildman wrote:
Undergrid wrote:
I don't know about the rest of you, but the blacksun and TIE fighters I've been fighting today just loop around me in circles. Its like the AI has been reverted to a stage in beta.
Well, when you're going so damned slow, what do you expect them to do? Just keep going??
Ok, so going at a speed of 1200 is slow? I have to slow down just so I don't overshoot the damn things, the blacksuns I've been fighting have gone from a cruise speed of 950ish to 809..
Well....yeah. My dunelizard cruises at 1339, and boosts at 1670. I can stay on the tails of Tier 5 Awings all day, and, let me tell ya, they try their hardest to shake ya. No "Donut of Doom".
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