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ErrorSi wrote:

I know we have plenty of 30 and 40 year old vehicles on the road here, if these cars can stand the test of time then why in the hell can't a few spaceships?

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Well, to take that analogy, take a 1955 Corvette and park it beside a 2005. Where's your money going to be on which is the better engineered car? I don't think many people are complaining about them adding in the "older" ships, but moreso the fact that the "older" ships far exceed what the "current" models can even come close to doing.

No, we're complaining that they're even putting them in. We aren't paying for a game set during the Clone Wars, or the Old Republic. We want ships that reflect where we are supposed to be. There are still quite a few ships from the GCW era that we can use, there is no need to go back and use stuff from the prequels.

Take a 2005 model and see if it runs as well as a 1955 mustang does now.

Regardless, in JTL we just take a chassis and add components to it. We are adding current technology into an old body. It's not the ship that's superior, its the components in it.

To be fair the ETA2 was not a line model... think of it as a cocept car, and the TIE as a production model plus the two ships where designed with diffrent things in mind... and realy I dont hear much belly aching about the ARC-170 given it's mass I think it is pretty well balanced.

My point is that the ROTW ships can be "better" if it is called for as someone else said the galaxy was in a state of disrepair and depresion at the time of the GCW plus to be honest the Empire had no respect for human life so many disposable ships/pilots made more sence then a few expensive ones considering how big the empire is.

To sum up my view... these ships do have a place in the game unfortunatly 2 of them are a wee bit unbalnced so they get used more offten than they should... I use a B-22 as my mining ship... I think it kind of fits like an old truck that has been converted haul dirt or something.

And to be fair I fly a heavy X-Wing... I did the mission... I dont like B-Wings...

Also stop using cars as a refrence, apparently you have no clue. Watch "Fast and the Furious 2" they make a good point. I did not like the movie but The older cars were way more powerful then the import modded things(I dont like modded import) they were driving. Old american mucle cars are faster, stronger, and better than what they are trying to make now. Why do you think the 2005 resembles the original mustang?

Havent you ever watched Jessie James on TV take an old car from the 50s or 60s and trick it out with a bad @ss engine and other mondernized parts? Well thats exactly what we are doing with the old ships. When we get them they are a hull (deed), Then we trick it out with loot and SW parts to cusomize it exactly the way we want it. Whats the problem with that? If people want to request an old ship be added to the game then let them. We all pay the same monthly payment. We got the same right to request a naboo starfighter as everyone else did that used to screem for a JSF before it was added.

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CityHall wrote:
To be fair the ETA2 was not a line model... think of it as a cocept car, and the TIE as a production model plus the two ships where designed with diffrent things in mind... and realy I dont hear much belly aching about the ARC-170 given it's mass I think it is pretty well balanced.

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190+ ETA-2's on board of every Destroyer, hundreds parked on planets throughout the galaxy. Not a line model?

ARC-170 has a too wide gunspread for the pilots and useless rear facing turrets. Most turret gunners get motion sickness. There's no belly aching cause it's pretty much useless for most. Cram it full with top-notch RE'd equipment, get 2 gunners with sturdy stomachs and a steady aim and it's a good ship, but those are the exceptions.

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wasj2004 wrote:
If people want to request an old ship be added to the game then let them. We all pay the same monthly payment. We got the same right to request a naboo starfighter as everyone else did that used to screem for a JSF before it was added.

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First, no one asked for the JSF. The bloody things were announced as headed our way whether we liked it or not before any of us had even seen the movie.

Second, you're well within your rights to ask for stuff. Just like the rest of us are well within our rights to tell the devs that we DON'T want what you are asking for. Dev time is limited, and we have the same right to ask them to not waste their time on prequel crap when they could be working on adding something that is supposed to be in the game.

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CityHall wrote:
To be fair the ETA2 was not a line model... think of it as a cocept car, and the TIE as a production model plus the two ships where designed with diffrent things in mind... and realy I dont hear much belly aching about the ARC-170 given it's mass I think it is pretty well balanced.

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190+ ETA-2's on board of every Destroyer, hundreds parked on planets throughout the galaxy. Not a line model?

ARC-170 has a too wide gunspread for the pilots and useless rear facing turrets. Most turret gunners get motion sickness. There's no belly aching cause it's pretty much useless for most. Cram it full with top-notch RE'd equipment, get 2 gunners with sturdy stomachs and a steady aim and it's a good ship, but those are the exceptions.

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All the more reason for a buch of them to be lying around... I realy agree that it is an over used spaceframe but I don't think they are going away any time soon.

whever said cars are a bad analogy is right look at KOTOR 5000 years befor episode 1 and the technology level is about the same if not a little higher in certan regards... the SW universe is in a stagnant place technology wise not at all like the world we live in... so it is perfectly reasonable to think that 50 years would not net a significant improvement in technology and anyway TIEs in general are suposedly disposable... the clone relic ships compare better to the Rebel fighters realy, higher quality, higher cost, but vastly improved survivability perfect for a smaller more talented force.

So yes gameplay wise they need balancing, but storywise I say leave 'em in the game because they didn't just go "poof" when the ep. III credits rolled and why waste all the work they did to creat them.