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Thread: Suggestions for a good joystick?

WrestleFreak
Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:57 am
#1
Have been playing JTL for a while using the mouse and I was thinking about buying a joystick but I have never used one before. Anyone got a good suggestion for an affordable one that is compatible with SWG? thanks.


Ryuen
Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:38 pm
#2
Saitek are pretty good, Logitech is the best known brand these days but have some quality issues lately



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D67
Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:14 pm
#3

Simple


Cheap


Logitech Extreme 3D Pro


You will need to recalibrate once in a while


Otherwise it's pretty good



Honestly, Its prefrence though


Sticks that other people swear by (Saitek) Just feel all "Wrong" in my hand...


Just go to the store and find one that feels right


Make sure it has Throttle and rudder...


and go





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Alarien
Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:00 am
#4

I'm starting to think we should all just make a standard reply to this question that either gives our answer, or refers to one of the other 5 daily joystick questions.


No offense man, but there are countless posts asking exactly the same thing.


And in answer to your question, no, I know none that are affordable and good. My suggestion is the $80-$100 Saitek X52. Logitech is affordable but crappy due to decalibration issues. Microsoft stopped making the great Sidewinder line. Thrustmaster usually does't have rudder on the stick.





Alarien Evenstar
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LRRCP
Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:32 am
#5
Best joystick I have used to date, CH F-16 Fighter stick. I use rudder pedals because I like them more and they are more precise then joysticks with twist.
The one I am using now are almost 12 years old and still as good as the day they were bought.

Badkarma72
Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:59 am
#6
CH products. Had mine 10 years and still going strong.
HiroTanaka
Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:11 am
#7
I won two PvP duels in a row using nothing more than a Microsoft Sidewinder. I config the 7 & 8 buttons to rolling, the 3 to Booster, the 4 to Missile and the 2 to Target Under Reticle. One hand on the joystick itself and the other hand stabalizing it, using my left thumb for throttle control. I can't over emphasize how important real-time throttle control is, because most ships don't turn as well at full speed (most work best in the 50% to 75% range). Make a firing pass, cut speed and spin, then throttle back to full once your sights are on their tail. This has one trick wins me more dogfights than anything else.


Oh, and the thing is USB capable and will probably cost you less than $10 these days. Although you may want to get one with a rotatable joystick and link your roll to that (easier that way). You'll notice that ships often have different turn rates per axis of movement, and sometimes rolling your ship a certain way will keep you on their tail when the wrong angle would let them slip away.

WrestleFreak
Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:08 am
#8
Thanks for the input, now that I have time to read the rest of the forums I see this was a much asked question. Sorry, just needed a quick answer. Can't do much research at work with the boss on the warpath. Thanks for the input.
Darth-Malus
Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:47 pm
#9





D67 wrote:

Logitech Extreme 3D Pro


You will need to recalibrate once in a while





I have one of these and overall it's satisfactory... but how do I recalibrate it? There's no calibration routine in Control Panel/Game Controllers as there was with my previous (Sidewinder) stick. All I see is a screen where you can check and make sure all the buttons and such are working, but nothing like setting the center and all that.


I like the stick but it has a tendency to pull to one side. Normally I'd be able to adjust that or compensate for it but I just can't find where or how.

Message Edited by Darth-Malus on 07-15-2005 01:51 AM




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Hapsmo
Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:01 pm
#10
MS Force Feedback is the best ive used so far. Its heavey at the base so you can tweek the stick and not tip it over. Plenty of buttons. One bad thing MS is no longer in the joystick buisness. Ebay is the way to go.



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Mse
Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:53 pm
#11
I use a controller, similar to the PS2's controller, and it is very good. Joysticks are more realistic, but less buttons, and with all the features on JTL, you want plenty of buttons. This controller is basically a PS2 controller for the ppc, I use it and it is very good, and affordable. There are several different controllers from Logitech, all very good, I use the Logitech Dual Action Gamepad for JTL and my FPS's.There are also several joysticks from Logitech, I would check Logitech.com for more information. The controller is$25-30. What is recalibration?

Message Edited by Mse on 07-15-2005 01:55 PM



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Darth-Malus
Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:30 pm
#12

Basically over time, the joystick becomes off-center and out of alignment, much like the wheels on a car. So basically, you need to run through a routine so that the operating system recognizes your pattern of use and where the centerpoint and limits should be in the stick's current condition.


The Logitech stick I use has twelve buttons, that's plenty.






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Sharur
Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:15 pm
#13
The day I gave up the joystick and started using the mouse for spacecraft control, JTL combat actually became fun. I'll never go back to a joystick for JTL.
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