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CyberData4
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:02 am
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I've been 4-4-4-4 rebel pilot on starsider since November 17th. Since then I've been trying to master my piloting profession. Now, since it's impossible to solo the mission, and 75% of my guild has left for other games, I'm hoping I can just earn the xp instead of waiting months to get a group going.
-I've asked people in game to help
-I've asked memebers of my guild (they're great people, just aren't always on, nor are they all combat oriented)
-I've searched near starbases in hopes that someone else had a group going and they would invite me
-I made a post on the starsider boards asking if any pilot would help (have yet to see how that goes)
So can I just get the 7.5 million xp instead of doing the mission?
quadpers0n
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:21 am
#2
afaik nobody has ever tried.
if it turns out that it is a viable alternative to the mission it will be a collosal travesty that kessel went pve as many of my friends quit because of that. i'm thinking the answer is no though, and that it issimplya misprint.
try it. at least you could be the first to say you did it.
SanRa_Ledav
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:21 am
#3
At 4-4-4-4 pilot you can't kill 30 ships solo in kessel?
Look up in either the JTL Board or the game guides. There is an excellent guide on tactics you can use to take down the corvette.
Look up in either the JTL Board or the game guides. There is an excellent guide on tactics you can use to take down the corvette.
CyberData4
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:29 am
#4
I already killed 30 ships in kessel. That wasn't too hard. My mission now is to eliminate the corvette. That I simply CAN NOT solo. I have been out of the loop for a while....did they change the master mission? Do I no longer have to kill the corvette to master rebel pilot?
WoenK
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:36 am
#5
Would be something 
I am just a 3332 with 300k XP , 100k over the needed ones and can't finish the mission (who the hell thought about killing 8 Ties in 10 minutes with lagging and rubber banding was possible?!)...
I am quite sure the Devs will say, "There is no rubber banding, it's a secret engine"...
Tuscanspeed
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:39 am
#6
you can get a group going in about an hour, at least on sunrunrunner.
go to Cnet, and start yelling "Forming group to Kill <your faction> Kessel corvette, PST!" you should be able to get ten people in an hour easy.
Oxudes
Tue Dec 28, 2004 11:57 am
#7
As far as i've seen today, the imperial corvette is harder than the rebel one. I don't know this for sure, but a group of 5 or 6 went today on the imp corvette (some were already master pilots), we were all dead in the matter of minutes (i'm only 3333, went there only for fun and to die 
). Then most of us left, someone decided to take on the rebel corvette and he destroyed it singlehanded.
). Then most of us left, someone decided to take on the rebel corvette and he destroyed it singlehanded.
CyberData4
Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:02 pm
#8
Um....ok the rebel is easier than the imp corvette......and? No, seriously. I'm not trying to be a jerk. I just see how that matters at all. Solo the corvette? Hmm, I know I can't do it. I went with a group of 6 of us and we were dead in moments.
quadpers0n
Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:40 pm
#9
The imperial corvette is actually easier. I've solo'd it easily as a master numerous times. The reason forit being easieris simply due to bomberstrike, distracting the corvette and the gunships gives you plenty of time to disable it.
It can be done solo without bomberstrike however, and I have done it. You need to pull the fighter escorts off the ship,destroythem out of the capital ship's range. Then do strafing runs on the individual components. You don't even need to use missles on the shields, 2 or 3 gun shots will destroy them, and they can be destroyed from nearly every angle.
If you are failing the mission as an imperial with masters present, you have absolutely no excuse save wanting the challenge of doing it without bomberstrike. Bomberstrike 3 from 2 master pilots will annhilate the vette's guns and destroy the thing in minutes. Three bomberstrike 2s will provide more than enough destraction, in fact, one bomberstrike 2 could likely do it. If you want the challenge of completing it with ships lesser equipped for PVE than other factions, try it without bomberstrike, it simply takes practice and good aim so you can disable components while strafing.
The true difficulty in this mission rested with the zone being a PVP area, now it's just a matter of gaming the game, those who cannot complete the mission are not worse pilots, they simply are not as good at finding the way to beat the system. Bomberstrike is the easy way, for imps wanting a "challenge" and rebels strafing runs and knowing where the components are and how to approach them is the hard way.
here's some hints:
rebel gunboats have a blindspot underneath them, although all 3 ships move erratically plan your attack to give yourself the best chance of approaching from a blind spot.
the underneath of the corvette has 4 less guns than the top. even now, as a master in deep space approaching a vette from the top often sends me back to endor.
behind the side guns next to the engine is a great spot to disable the shields. "arent the shields near the front?" you say, yes. they are. try it. the vette "falls" into your guns.
as stated above, pull the escorts off first.
target each component and observe where it is on the ship before you make your run, i cannot count the # of pilots i have seen (including myself) who don't really know what they are supposed to beshooting at. the thing is disabled and they are sitting there shooting it's radar wondering why they don't do damage.
it's also significantly more difficult to attack the thing when it's flipping around, it will eventually stop performing evasives, the crux of your attack should begin then
HardwiredXMan
Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:51 pm
#10
Well, I don't think you can master pilot without doing the vette mission.....because I think it would work like the tier 3 missions where the trainer will not train you until you complete the mission he gives you.....maybe if you get the 7.5 mil xp before you talk to him at all, he might train you...but I doubt it....once you take the first mission from him, you are more or less locked into doing both missions as they are tied together as one objective in two different parts.
Remember the reason you are killing 30 imp ships in kessel as the first part of the master mission is to soften up the enemy presence in kessel (from a story point of view anyway) and then you can make an attack on the vette afterwards.....so this leads me to believe that the 2 master missions are tied together and the trainer won't offer you training at this point no matter how much xp you have.
quadpers0n
Tue Dec 28, 2004 12:54 pm
#11
That is probably the case. They likely couldn't have the Master Pilot graphic in the skilltree without it also having an XP meter, so they abitrarily set it at 7.5mil xp. That's just a theory.It would be nice if someone could confirm it. Actually it would be nice if it was changed, I've met more than one pilot who felt 7.5 million xp was a hardship they did not want to put up with, only to be elated when they found out it was only 2 missions. And 2 missions that can be repeated constantly without dropping from the datapad, no less.
There's just not a good way for alot of people to get that information.
quadpers0n
Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:53 pm
#12
Hey what's the benefit of using missles on the components when you can blow them with blasters? (I've never used missles so I don't know) Is it an aiming issue?
TjadenFederov
Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:37 pm
#13
Missles are actually very powerful on the vette... Not only do they do a lot of damage to components, they are fire and forget, so as soon as you get a lock, Launch a missle off and then boost out of there. Chances are you will hit it.
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