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RandAiden
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:44 am
#1
Devs - please, please don't let the Rebel Flight Helmet go the way of the Imperial Hat.It has been said that there is a Rebel Flight Helmet coded, but that it only workson Human and Zab heads therefore it will not be included in the game until this is "fixed". This is exactly the same "problem" the Imperial Hat has had and no one has been able to use one for over a year now.
Now I have to quantify this argument by stating that I play an Imperial character in the game (and thus will never wear the Helmet), but I am a true Star Wars fan. The Rebel Flight Helmetis a MAJOR Star Wars icon and should be included with the Rebel flightsuit when it is awarded (just as we Imperial players get a TIE suit and helmet). Who cares at this point that only Humans and Zabs can wear them - at leastinclude it for them so that someone canuse them.When the coding is finshed for non-human type heads, include it as a patch in an upcoming Publish. Don't penalize players by not including it.
From a marketing standpoint, it will be a serious disappointment (and first taste of neglected Star Wars content) to those new players who are joining SWGbecause ofJTL.Don't let something like this "little" helmet issue blow up into something which could seriously hurt JTLs image.
So please, PLEASE, don't follow past SOE guidelines and let the Rebel Flight Helmet become the new Imperial Hat....
Tsimhnori
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:48 am
#2
but... the Imperial Hat never worked on human players though
I've seen screens of helmets that are coded but not ingame... there is the rebel helmet, but... it has a mask part over the mouth arera.
Message Edited by Tsimhnori on 10-25-2004 11:49 AM
MyT_Chicken
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:48 am
#3
RandAiden wrote:
Devs - please, please don't let the Rebel Flight Helmet go the way of the Imperial Hat.It has been said that there is a Rebel Flight Helmet coded, but that it only workson Human and Zab heads therefore it will not be included in the game until this is "fixed". This is exactly the same "problem" the Imperial Hat has had and no one has been able to use one for over a year now.
Now I have to quantify this argument by stating that I play an Imperial character in the game (and thus will never wear the Helmet), but I am a true Star Wars fan. The Rebel Flight Helmetis a MAJOR Star Wars icon and should be included with the Rebel flightsuit when it is awarded (just as we Imperial players get a TIE suit and helmet). Who cares at this point that only Humans and Zabs can wear them - at leastinclude it for them so that someone canuse them.When the coding is finshed for non-human type heads, include it as a patch in an upcoming Publish. Don't penalize players by not including it.
From a marketing standpoint, it will be a serious disappointment (and first taste of neglected Star Wars content) to those new players who are joining SWGbecause ofJTL.Don't let something like this "little" helmet issue blow up into something which could seriously hurt JTLs image.
So please, PLEASE, don't follow past SOE guidelines and let the Rebel Flight Helmet become the new Imperial Hat....
Last I head the Rebel Flight Helm is being put on hold until they can get it working on all applicable species.
snorbarnet
Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:57 am
#4
Last I heard was that they were going to add it to the game in the current stat as a quest item. If I recall correctly it was TH who said that so it could probably be found in the Dev tracker.
JYCowboy
Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:21 pm
#5
Howdy,
This topic is hot for the Rebs so it wont go away. At least we know that it isbeing worked on to some extent since there is art and coding for the Helmet. One piece of news is that one of the Developers, I think it was TH,said there may be a Loot upgrade/revamp coming. Face it, we want better loot on the ground. Consideration for JTL items may be in the mix. I want my Rebel Helmet too. I hope we could get Texture kits for them like we can the ships. Make these Helmets special to groups or you individually. Just a further thought.
As I posted on another thread, I think considerationfor all races needs to be had. This is the Rebel Alliance not the race limited Empire. TH once posted that to get the Imperial Officer Hat to work that it might have to be limited to charaters with military acceptable hair cuts(Humans no doubt). You see, its the hair that limits that hats use,as I understand. The Rebel Helmet is different, however, as hair should not be a issue. I think its a matter of fairness to the Rebel players that they develope Helmet art for all races before making this Live.
I hope it will be addressed by a developer on one of these threads. Remeber the developers time is about to be freed up from JTL, not counting de-bugging. They are commited to do the Combat Revamp next and that has a higher priority. There is not an army of Coders to help develope this one issue. JustG said he wished there was 5 times more Developers for SWG, but there is not. Have heart and patience. It will come.
RandAiden
Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:16 pm
#6
JYCowboy wrote:
Howdy,
This topic is hot for the Rebs so it wont go away. At least we know that it isbeing worked on to some extent since there is art and coding for the Helmet. One piece of news is that one of the Developers, I think it was TH,said there may be a Loot upgrade/revamp coming. Face it, we want better loot on the ground. Consideration for JTL items may be in the mix. I want my Rebel Helmet too. I hope we could get Texture kits for them like we can the ships. Make these Helmets special to groups or you individually. Just a further thought.
As I posted on another thread, I think considerationfor all races needs to be had. This is the Rebel Alliance not the race limited Empire. TH once posted that to get the Imperial Officer Hat to work that it might have to be limited to charaters with military acceptable hair cuts(Humans no doubt). You see, its the hair that limits that hats use,as I understand. The Rebel Helmet is different, however, as hair should not be a issue. I think its a matter of fairness to the Rebel players that they develope Helmet art for all races before making this Live.
I hope it will be addressed by a developer on one of these threads. Remeber the developers time is about to be freed up from JTL, not counting de-bugging. They are commited to do the Combat Revamp next and that has a higher priority. There is not an army of Coders to help develope this one issue. JustG said he wished there was 5 times more Developers for SWG, but there is not. Have heart and patience. It will come.
You make some really good points here (I especially like the "customized" helmet option - would be just like the movies!) but I am afraid of exactly what you state in your last paragraph actually happening. This isprecisely why we Imperials don't have a Hat to wear - we have waited, and Waited, and WAITED for more than a year for it to be fixed. And what do we have to show for our faith that a hugely Star Warsy item like the Hat would get some love? Nothing, nada, zip.
As an Imp it matters not to meif the Flight Helmet is never included in the game - but as a Star Wars fanit upsets me that other items get priority(and work) likenot one, but TWO chefs hatsin this "Star Wars" game. So please,if you EVER want to see the RebelFlight Helmet in the game start pushing for it now... even if only humans and Zabs can wear it to begin with.
As I said before, it wouldbe really sad if the Rebel Flight Helmet became the new Imperial Hat....
JYCowboy
Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:58 pm
#7
JYCowboy wrote:
Howdy,
This topic is hot for the Rebs so it wont go away. At least we know that it isbeing worked on to some extent since there is art and coding for the Helmet. One piece of news is that one of the Developers, I think it was TH,said there may be a Loot upgrade/revamp coming. Face it, we want better loot on the ground. Consideration for JTL items may be in the mix. I want my Rebel Helmet too. I hope we could get Texture kits for them like we can the ships. Make these Helmets special to groups or you individually. Just a further thought.
As I posted on another thread, I think considerationfor all races needs to be had. This is the Rebel Alliance not the race limited Empire. TH once posted that to get the Imperial Officer Hat to work that it might have to be limited to charaters with military acceptable hair cuts(Humans no doubt). You see, its the hair that limits that hats use,as I understand. The Rebel Helmet is different, however, as hair should not be a issue. I think its a matter of fairness to the Rebel players that they develope Helmet art for all races before making this Live.
I hope it will be addressed by a developer on one of these threads. Remeber the developers time is about to be freed up from JTL, not counting de-bugging. They are commited to do the Combat Revamp next and that has a higher priority. There is not an army of Coders to help develope this one issue. JustG said he wished there was 5 times more Developers for SWG, but there is not. Have heart and patience. It will come.
You make some really good points here (I especially like the "customized" helmet option - would be just like the movies!) but I am afraid of exactly what you state in your last paragraph actually happening. This isprecisely why we Imperials don't have a Hat to wear - we have waited, and Waited, and WAITED for more than a year for it to be fixed. And what do we have to show for our faith that a hugely Star Warsy item like the Hat would get some love? Nothing, nada, zip.
As an Imp it matters not to meif the Flight Helmet is never included in the game - but as a Star Wars fanit upsets me that other items get priority(and work) likenot one, but TWO chefs hatsin this "Star Wars" game. So please,if you EVER want to see the RebelFlight Helmet in the game start pushing for it now... even if only humans and Zabs can wear it to begin with.
As I said before, it wouldbe really sad if the Rebel Flight Helmet became the new Imperial Hat....
Howdy RandAiden,
I hope the Imperial Officer Cap is fixed. I know the wait is hard. Just remember what the Smugglers are going through for thier revamp, lol. Maybe to add more pain to the misery but, the Chef hat had to have Art made for each different head type. Ithorians even got both Chef caps and that was a total new art build. You are right to say we need to demand. "Squeeky wheel gets the grease" as they say, so I post. Now that JTL is launching, this is the time to ask for our wishes to be made. SOE will not have to make another Expansion for LucasArts coffers for sometime. The team may be shifting to the Combat Revamp but that is related to much of what we want. They also dont have the JTL deadline to meet and are relaxing from that stress. I want this game to be more Star Warsy too. Hell, why arent you Imps getting the Lambda Class shuttle or the Sentinel Class Landing Craft as player ships? I guess, like you, I want to see more icons that we know. Oh, my other Star Warsy complaint, Naboo should be crawling with Shaaks (Big Tick Cows) and Scurriers should be the city trash of Tatooine. I know the Special Editions are not all liked but these creatures are part of the ever expanding Star Wars universe. I think adding a New Alien Species to the NPC spawning pool every 2-3 months would be great too. "Whoa, Ive never seen that before." Lets just hope we geta payout for our patience.
Until the Ewoks die of Fallout,
"May the Force Be With You." 
Message Edited by JYCowboy on 10-25-200408:59 PM
Message Edited by JYCowboy on 10-25-2004 08:59 PM
DeadBull
Mon Oct 25, 2004 9:27 pm
#8
RandAiden wrote:
Who cares at this point that only Humans and Zabs can wear them - at leastinclude it for them so that someone canuse them.
I care!! It's silly that a rodian cannot wear the helmet 
RandAiden
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:04 am
#10
This shouldn't be a "loot" item! It is standard issue Rebel equipment (and should be given when the flightsuit is obtained).
To use a previous quote, (Overheard in the Rebel hanger just before the attack on the Death Star inEpisode 4, A New Hope) "Sorry Mr. Skywalker, you have enough Pilot XP from your previous flying experience to qualify for the X-wing, but we can't give you a helmet - you're going to have to loot that...."
Give me a break!
MajorReb
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:15 am
#11
RandAiden wrote:
This shouldn't be a "loot" item! It is standard issue Rebel equipment (and should be given when the flightsuit is obtained).
To use a previous quote, (Overheard in the Rebel hanger just before the attack on the Death Star inEpisode 4, A New Hope) "Sorry Mr. Skywalker, you have enough Pilot XP from your previous flying experience to qualify for the X-wing, but we can't give you a helmet - you're going to have to loot that...."
Give me a break!
Hahah
Volth-the-Hunter
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:21 am
#12
Agree completely. My main will be a Rebel pilot and I'd love to have the helmet. I have an Imperial alt on another server and he's had his TIE Suit and Helmet for months (from the Imp theme park).
XtremeOmega
Tue Oct 26, 2004 12:48 am
#13
RandAiden wrote:
This shouldn't be a "loot" item! It is standard issue Rebel equipment (and should be given when the flightsuit is obtained).
To use a previous quote, (Overheard in the Rebel hanger just before the attack on the Death Star inEpisode 4, A New Hope) "Sorry Mr. Skywalker, you have enough Pilot XP from your previous flying experience to qualify for the X-wing, but we can't give you a helmet - you're going to have to loot that...."
Give me a break!
lol
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