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Thread: Lot stealing yachts

Ogova-Regulator
Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:04 pm
#1

Ok the yacht is really cool and all, but how come I don't get my lot back when I destroy my yacht? I bet more than a few crafters are a bit upset about this.



bleh
Road-Kill21
Wed Nov 10, 2004 3:08 pm
#2

Don't forget about us non-crafers


I have a guild division to manage and I need my lots, and now 1 is missing...



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Ogova-Regulator
Wed Nov 10, 2004 4:21 pm
#3

Yeah but nobody cares, they are too busy fussing about Kessel...



bleh
Ogova-Regulator
Fri Nov 12, 2004 2:38 am
#4

Maybe if i put the word kesel in the title this thread would get some more attention?



bleh
ReddFhive
Fri Nov 12, 2004 3:41 am
#5






Ogova-Regulator wrote:

Maybe if i put the word kesel in the title this thread would get some more attention?







Sadly, you're prolly right.


On the Lot issue, I don't like it. Should'nt take up a lot in the 1st place.






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theoden-flurry
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:30 am
#6

it should take up a lot cause its basicaly like the merchant tent they both hold 75 items so should both take 1 lot but not geting it back they realy should fix that.



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Notatti
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:55 am
#7






theoden-flurry wrote:

it should take up a lot cause its basicaly like the merchant tent they both hold 75 items so should both take 1 lot but not geting it back they realy should fix that.







No it shouldn't cost a lot. This is a vet reward and should not cost the vet anything. The extra 75 item storage is a thank you for growing with the game over the past year. I compare it too a wife beater that says " I Love You" whilst hitting. Give with one hand, take with another is not a way to say thanks. I am very upset that I cannot redeed this and recover my lot. If I would have known that it would permanentlyreduce my "playablility" by taking the 10 minutes cruise I never would have cashed in the deed. It is way too slow to use as a viable travel option and I can tour space with my fighter. My suggestions to improve this ship situation would be...


1. Allow the customization of engines, reactors, and boosters. Set mass at 100k for this.


2. Allow redeeding of the ship.


3. Increase item storage to 150.


4. Fix autopilot.


5. Fix the dashboard being always visable.


6. Remove the lot cost for this reward.


7. Remove the ship lot cost for this reward.


These are all reasonable requests.

theoden-flurry
Fri Nov 12, 2004 5:58 am
#8

if it didnt take a lot people would have 2 do thats a small house for free in the beta they didnt take lots but you had to undecorate one mpv before using another that every1 complained about so they made it so you can have 2 they take a lot each and can be decorated at the the same time so basicaly if they went back to the beta way you would have to go up in the reward undecorate then into your mpv combat vehichle then decorate it just to take a team into combat as you couldnt launch the other if the first one was decorated the lot makes alot more sense.



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Sepen
Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:22 am
#9






Notatti wrote:

I compare it too a wife beater that says " I Love You" whilst hitting.




Your sense of analogy is flawed and sick.


Martek
GangaWolf
Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:29 am
#10

The point being is that the yaucht taking up a lot space isn't much of a reward for being a veteran. And the bug of it not freeing up a lot for you is annoying as well.


I'm glad I read this and haven't used my yaucht yet. Other than being unattackable I see no benefit to it over a MP ship (which can travel faster, etc).


But SOE implemented this because of their flawed database design. Allowing 75 more "storage units" per toon would have caused huge database inlfation and probably crashed the game. Sad, isn't it?



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Wokka
Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:47 am
#11



GangaWolf wrote:
The point being is that the yaucht taking up a lot space isn't much of a reward for being a veteran. And the bug of it not freeing up a lot for you is annoying as well.
I'm glad I read this and haven't used my yaucht yet. Other than being unattackable I see no benefit to it over a MP ship (which can travel faster, etc).
But SOE implemented this because of their flawed database design. Allowing 75 more "storage units" per toon would have caused huge database inlfation and probably crashed the game. Sad, isn't it?





Yes, this flawed-by-design database problem seems to come up quite often. Storage for BE's and their DNA samples would kill the database altogether, thats why they can't get help for storage. Thats why anyone can't get help for storage. they won't let guild halls hold their intended amounts, and its not a bug, it's an omission. Remember the great melon nerf? and THAT was early on in the game that they already experienced a less-than-adequate database.

changing to a new type of "adequate" database solution will probably cost too much for a switchover. So the bottom line is, we're stuck with it and SWG will always be "the game with the lousy database limitations".

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captenjonny
Fri Nov 12, 2004 11:42 am
#12

Yes. As a crafter the yacht is a real POS "gift". Give up my one of my lots - for what? A fancy party barge? Thanks a lot I feel so special.



Captain Jonny
ReddFhive
Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:12 am
#13






theoden-flurry wrote:

it should take up a lot cause its basicaly like the merchant tent they both hold 75 items so should both take 1 lot but not geting it back they realy should fix that.







It's okay, you've been conditioned by SOE to think this way. The game is supposed to be fun and the last thing i want to worry about (even more so) as a crafter is how I'm gonna make up for losingone lot (two when i reach master)that I'm already in short supply on.


This touches on the subject of the "storage issue" (not enough room to store everything you own) but I won't get into that. Just like everything else in this game, without question, the entire storage and lot system needs to be looked at and revamped.






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