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Thread: Follow up on Falcon turret use in RotJ.
Message Edited by DaveG on 12-31-2004 05:32 PM
Well mabey the gunners got tripple incaped by a plasma leak?
DaveG wrote:
When the rebels entered the DeathStar (2) and were being pursued by TIE's, their escorts were destroyed and there was only Wedge in his X-Wing and the Falcon left, with the Falcon following the X-wing. So, if the YT-1300 did have a full crew, including gunners, then those TIE's should have been shot down because they had a clear shot. The TIE's weren't shot down however, and followed them all the way out until the flames/blast-wave caught them.
DaveG wrote:As a question to the rest of you, how often do you use your MP ships these days? Would you use it more if you had pilot-controlled guns? (which could either be seperate guns or turrets locked forwards when there is no gunner).Message Edited by DaveG on
nope. what for? it would still be sluggish, bugged and underpowered compared to a sp ship (pretty much the way it should be without a crew).
and yes, afaik the falcon has two turrets and a pair of forward blasters. not counting the repeating blaster. think about it, you have han and chewie as co-pilot. in swg they would be pretty much screwed ,-)
DaveG wrote:
Was watching RotJ today and noticed something interesting.
When the rebels entered the DeathStar (2) and were being pursued by TIE's, their escorts were destroyed and there was only Wedge in his X-Wing and the Falcon left, with the Falcon following the X-wing. So, if the YT-1300 did have a full crew, including gunners, then those TIE's should have been shot down because they had a clear shot. The TIE's weren't shot down however, and followed them all the way out until the flames/blast-wave caught them.
This opens up the question of such upgrades for game YT-1300's.
As a question to the rest of you, how often do you use your MP ships these days? Would you use it more if you had pilot-controlled guns? (which could either be seperate guns or turrets locked forwards when there is no gunner).
Message Edited by DaveG on 12-31-2004 05:32 PM
That would be assuming much, as the only proof would be the fact that the upper and lower guns were not firing behind to the TIEs following...
possibilities:
1) Guns were not manned, but pilot controled. However this doesnt explain that the guns on the Falcon were being fired targeting TIES, and the turrents did shoot in an arc not 100% forward orientation of the ship.
I also watched all movies too, specifically for this argument a while back. For the record, the Falcon NEVER fires the quad lasers in the Empire Strikes Back. Twice in a New Hope, one with turret gunners, once at the deathstar, but we aren't clear if Chewy wasn't at the lower guns. And in ROTJ, when the first wave of TIEs fly in with Landos "Hey they come!" statement...why didnt the "pilot contoled" guns fire at all those taste targets ahead of the falcon...it didnt! Perhaps the gunners were caught unawares.
Other Possibilities:
2) Guns were manned but shooting them in a confined space wouldn't be safe with the Falcon dodging and twirling...
3) Guns were manned, but the TIEs were weaving in and out of the gunners firing arc. Have you ever tried shooting an MP ship gun with the ship moving about. Perhaps if they missed the TIEs, they might destroy they tunnel...the only escape out.
4)Guns were previously manned, but gunners incapped by plasma flames...
5) Guns were previously manned, but the capacitor was drained to keep the back shields charged (privateers droid command)...more important to get the core in one piece...
6) Guns were previously manned, but the gunners are now running about making repairs...
As you can see, with the very little proof provided, it's all just conjecture, as Obi-Wan puts it, "...from a certain point of view"
Trienco wrote:
and yes, afaik the falcon has two turrets and a pair of forward blasters. not counting the repeating blaster.
Trienco wrote:
think about it, you have han and chewie as co-pilot. in swg they would be pretty much screwed ,-)
Also the damn YT-1300 is a far cry from the Flacon anyway.
Message Edited by MadcowwithSARS on 12-31-2004 10:05 AM
MadcowwithSARS wrote:
...stuff...
Message Edited by DaveG on 12-31-2004 10:51 PM
Message Edited by Gruug on 12-31-2004 09:40 PM
Pseudopd wrote:It has been written that the Falcon was modified for defense and an ultrafast getaway, not the dogfight. It has sloppily weilded imperal ship hull plating, an illegal radar dish (as it was described, so that the Falcon can see imperials long before they can see him), iIlegal shields, multiple droid interfaces, and the fastest engine possible for a YT class from shady sources.
and we all saw how well that worked in anh. they had a hard time escaping from star destroyers and had zero chance of outrunning a couple ties. without two more people that just happened to be around they would have been humped by a lousy two tie fighters. they were even so much faster than the "fastest ship in the fleet" to fly back and forth all around it (ok, thats a case of "but it was in the script", just like the pointless highway scene in matrix 2). also, one might notice how many passes those ties did on the falcon without causing too severe damage. again, if that would have been swg they would have been dead after the first tie fired a single shot.