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Thread: -JTL- flaws of the phisics in space. and what should be done to improve combat.

Treena_Daal
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:44 am
#1
If you want to start a thread about PvP damage, just say so. I'm sure that there are many pilots here who would be perfectly happy to tell you exactly why it's a bad idea to reduce PvP damage.
Marcus-
Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:05 am
#2
The sliding thing like you're on ice, so you can still turn while going in the same direction you did before turning, it was like that in beta. I thought that was very fun flying, you could do some nice stunts with that



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Washell
Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:14 am
#3






Narut0 wrote:
JTL could become fun for everyone if a system that didn't rely on the BEST engin or shields or weapons was put in to game.


because its twitch based it should be more based on skill then actualy ship system specs.




It doesn't.


It is.



CityHall
Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:26 am
#4
First sorry someone shot you down; where you faction grinding at the time?

Second if this was a BSG (Battlestar Galactica) Space sim that would work because they use a Newtonian physics model... and if there was such a game I would be on it like stink on a monkey... but this is based on Star Wars so unfortunatly constant thrust = constant Velocity



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Kin-Char_Bamin
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:12 am
#5

I was just gonna say, Someone watches Galactica!


I too wish that I could flip my Kihraxz (looks the most like a Viper I think) around backwards and toss some fire back at someone!


It would be great (IMHO) to have JTL work like real space, but it would be chaos too.


Can you imagine 100s of "Flight Students" drifting around out of control in space, crashing into one another, bouncing off and astroid or space staion? Hmmm, that sounds kinda fun really but, it would be a mess.


Most players unfortunately expect JTL to fly just the way it does.


Kin-Char

Message Edited by Kin-Char_Bamin on 08-16-2005 08:13 AM



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Treena_Daal
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:16 am
#6

Kin-Char_Bamin wrote:
Most players unfortunately expect JTL to fly just the way it does.

This might have something to do with the fact that people in Star Wars actually do fly the way JTL does. Why is it unfortunate to expect a Star Wars game to behave like things in Star Wars do?
DeepFatFryer
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:23 am
#7

Treena_Daal wrote:

Kin-Char_Bamin wrote:
Most players unfortunately expect JTL to fly just the way it does.

This might have something to do with the fact that people in Star Wars actually do fly the way JTL does. Why is it unfortunate to expect a Star Wars game to behave like things in Star Wars do?



Pity the same can't be said for the ground game



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"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return."
"If your pvp battles in space only last a few seconds YOU need practice. The game isn't broken, you just suck!" - Thik
"There's no sensation quite like learning to fly. Tounge-tied and twisted, just an earth-bound misfit, I." -Pink Floyd
"One/two shot PvP is good because this is a game of EVASION. NOT ABSORBTION" - Big mean heartbreaker.
"Sod implementing anything half-decent, we have SWG to make! OLOL!"
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Treena_Daal
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:25 am
#8
We have a ground game? What for?
CityHall
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:30 am
#9
the Nym's Starmap quest and some anoying walky bits of some missions mostly...



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Lowca: Oiboim Wane

Play the game or don't it is what it is and will never be what it was for better or worse. I intend to play the game as long as it is fun, that does not make me a fan boy of brown noser. I know the game has it's flaws, but it serves no purpose to dwell in the past.
Attacca
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:14 am
#10

Why did you post this twice? http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=pilot&message.id=107013


They really need to get rid of this board...




Narut0 wrote:
damage would be changed for PVP to be less damaging and missiles would become a better way to gain quicker kills (1 hit wise)

this would make players more agile and have to use Counter mesures more. (CM packs should also have more uses say 20 uses.)

JTL could become fun for everyone if a system that didn't rely on the BEST engin or shields or weapons was put in to game.
because its twitch based it should be more based on skill then actualy ship system specs.



So you want less damage but more agile ships, and you think this will make PvP more fun? I'm guessing you don't PvP much, or you'd see the current model involves too much agility. With Cap to Shield Shunt an agile ship can last just about forever, until someone scores a lucky hit. Your idea is NOT a good solution to current PvP issues.


Regarding ship equipment - part of being a good pilot is putting together a good rig. But it's only a small part, I've shot down plenty of pilots in 'better' ships.








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Treena_Daal
Tue Aug 16, 2005 7:16 am
#11

Attacca wrote:
They really need to get rid of this board...

Quoted for truth. Why is this board even here anymore? Can someone name ONE issue that would not be better located under either the Pilot or Shipwright profession forums?
Attacca
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:42 am
#12
Absolutely! Worse is that at least in those forums, we can say, "FFS, RTFF!" Alas, no FAQ here...





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Rebel Alliance A-Wing Pilot
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Treena_Daal
Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:53 am
#13
I maintain that the proper abbreviation is "RTFFAQ". FAQ is not a word, but an abberviation on its own. The last part of the abbreviation is not dropped just because we add it to a larger abberviation.

(Side note: Why the hell is "abbreviation" such a long word?)
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