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Thread: Powers users /sign if you are going to give it up if this nerf comes out

lordhan
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:33 am
#1

Seeing as how powers has never been fixed and they keep throwing out nerfs, I think the devs are telling us that powers is a waste of our skill points. If they do this then I will want a respec seeing as how im mpowers and not about to grind out 15.2 mil cause the devs decided to change something. Master powers users or dabblers /sign if you want asingle respec to give up powers if this nerf goes live.


/sign
RosaShyanne
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:37 am
#2

*sigh* I don't believe in respecs, even though I abuse them the same as others.


Out of curiosity.... would you rather that they left cloak alone and allow each and every MBH to get M Ranger and cloak themselves??? This change wasn't to nerf cloak but to address a HUGE issue we would have had when the new Ranger hit the scene. If you aren't aware of what I am talking about, look at the cool M Ranger ability to "cloak" in cities. Then imagine you were walking in Theed and got jumped by a MBH/M Ranger/ 4000 CM with a med bot.... oh yeah, and your health was already hit by the max dmg bio trap he used on you.


The change benefits each and every Jedi in the game, despite the fact that the cloak skill isn't as powerful as it once was.





---Rosa, Jedi
emovamalla
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:38 am
#3







lordhan wrote:

Seeing as how powers has never been fixed and they keep throwing out nerfs, I think the devs are telling us that powers is a waste of our skill points. If they do this then I will want a respec seeing as how im mpowers and not about to grind out 15.2 mil cause the devs decided to change something. Master powers users or dabblers /sign if you want asingle respec to give up powers if this nerf goes live.


/sign






Do we deserve it? Yes.Once they stopped respecing the skills they had in place at that point NEEDED to be "In Line w/ the CU". If they were not, then THEY goofed up and we should not be punished for it.


Will we get it? No. There are many more anti-respecer's than PO'd MPowers users by far.


Will I quit as a result? I'll try. Haha... it's so hard to give up on a char w/ so much work I've put into it.




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Orthell
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:43 am
#4

Depends on how far they nerf it, and if how well cloak works for rangers. We should have the best cloak in game IMHO and they better not overnerf it. If they FIXED it, no nerfs would be needed. But that might be beyond SOE's capabilities to FIX instead of NERF.

For once, PLEASE trying FIXING or rebalancing instead of nerfing, this is getting really old.







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lordhan
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:49 am
#5

Isn't enhancers stasis similar to rifleman's startle shot. Only thing is enhancers lasts i think 40 seconds while riflemans is like 3. You can have jedi skills be better than the non-jedi ones. I hope they will leave power's alone. Give ranger there stealth abililty but don't nerf powers just cause they can and to pisspeople off. If nerfing powers cloak benefits every jedi in the game then why not nerf stasis, force run, feedback, speed and absorb cause that would benefit all the powers jedis in the game. It should not be a one-way thing. We lose while you benefit is not very balancing.
Imist
Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:55 am
#6

Nope no matter how crazy, a nerf may be, I will not drop it. I am master powers and i Love it.
Also I think all this nerf calling is jumping to conclusions, how can we know if there really is a nerf unless we actually see the change ?



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BukuJohnson
Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:53 am
#7

I started playing this game because my Brother told me about a cool profession called Commando. A mid ranged damage dealer with high offense, area attacks, a wicked DOT, but poor defenses. It sounded like a blast so I bought the game and mastered Commando in Aug of '03.

My first Holocron said Dancer but I had no desire to drop Commando until they nerfed it to hell that winter. Jedi looked to have many fun skills in it so I spent the next 3 months mastering 30 professions and unlocked my FSCS. While I was leveling my Jedi in the spring of '04 they announced the Jedi Revamp and a new discipline named Force Wielder, a mid ranged damage dealing profession with area attacks and a wicked DOT.

I have been a MForce Wielder ever since, but in the 20 months since they nerfed the profession I bought the game for SOE has never lived up to their promises to improve either Commando or Powers. I hung around for the CU for the sole purpose of waiting to see if these two professions would be improved. Instead of focusing on the issue of speed, damage, and combat specials they have given us skills that are too easily emploited or the rest of the player base hates.

There is little evidence that SOE has any intention of making Powers a viable ranged combat profession. It may be time to throw in the towel and move on. I have my token respec and a great saber, but I can't think of a reason to play a game where you are nothing more than a swordsman with a Saber.


Buku
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Shender
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:38 am
#8

I just don't understand why most of these cloakers are so crazy about this "nerf." Heck, no one even knows how it will really pan out in Live. So far, all it really does is give you a snare (you knew this was coming, look at AI). Rangers cannot detect you (read the posts) nor can anyone else. Force cloak should act exactly the same it does now except that you can't heal while under cloak (makes sense if you've ever PvPed with a cloaked healer around). They also have not said if channel was also one of those abilities that will break cloak.

So please, someone tell me as to why so many Jedi are so upset over these changes.



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RosaShyanne
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:41 am
#9






Shender wrote:
I just don't understand why most of these cloakers are so crazy about this "nerf."





1. We're Americans, when things don't go our way, this is what we do (unless we can bomb, we like to bomb people).

2. No one has done their research. They complain about fixing an exploit about to be released on our profession.

3. Age... I'm assuming we still have a large teenage population here.

4. Did I say we're americans?



---Rosa, Jedi
Shender
Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:55 am
#10



RosaShyanne wrote:


Shender wrote:
I just don't understand why most of these cloakers are so crazy about this "nerf."


1. We're Americans, when things don't go our way, this is what we do (unless we can bomb, we like to bomb people).
2. No one has done their research. They complain about fixing an exploit about to be released on our profession.
3. Age... I'm assuming we still have a large teenage population here.
4. Did I say we're americans?





Well, I can fully agree with all of it except for the age part. Age doesn't determine maturity. People are inherently more or less mature than others.



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cmreeves
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:07 am
#11

IMO I think cloak should be left alone. Look at all the MBH/MCM, you do not see the Dev's nerfing them. This Dev's do not have their priorities in order, because if they did, they would do something about these DAMN BH's with the FOTM they are using. The Dev's are so quick to shutdown Jedi FOTM templates. Jedi are already weak enough.
BukuJohnson
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:13 am
#12

Force cloak should act exactly the same it does now except that you can't heal while under cloak (makes sense if you've ever PvPed with a cloaked healer around). They also have not said if channel was also one of those abilities that will break cloak.
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Because if healing and or Channel are no longer allowed while cloaked a Powers Jedi can not hope to survive a fight. Force costs are double, action costs are double, speed and damage are half, zip bars and cooldowns are insane. Healing and chaneling while Cloaked was the only ability that gave Mpowers any survivability in PVP.



Buku
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p897t98
Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:15 am
#13

You shouldnt be able to perform any action while cloaked except moving, as to all this crying, save the crying until you can atleast test it. I feel for powers users but lame dabbler cloak bandits have got to go.




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